Am I stupid for not moving up?

BourbonizeBourbonize Red Chipper Posts: 43 ✭✭
So, I'm probably going to come off like an idiot here, but here goes...

I am very comfortable playing live 1/2. I've been doing it full-time for a living for 3+ years. I was an accountant for 15 years prior and hated it. Found out I can make more money at poker so I quit my job and started playing live full-time. I play between 1,800 - 2,000 hours each year. I like to do 6 hours a day, 6 days a week, but it varies.

My results have been pretty good and I probably should be moving up.

2015 - $22/hr
2016 - $27/hr
2017 - $30/hr
2018 - $46/hr (only 312 hours played)
*I'm not sure how sustainable my 2018 hourly is, but I added a new concept starting Jan 1 and I don't think it's a coincidence that my hourly has risen dramatically.


Anyway...
I'm not trying to get rich. I like the low stress of playing 1/2, with a $300 buy in, against the worst players in the room as opposed to 2/5, with a $1k buy in, against much better players. I mean, can I really make that much more at 2/5 than I am at 1/2? I don't know. But everyone is always telling me to move up and I just shrug it off.

I guess I'm getting a little better year by year, but I think I might be a little scared of failure since things have gone so well over the last few years. I study almost every day and treat poker like a real job and take it very seriously.

I don't know....it's just been something that's been bugging me lately.

Let the criticism begin....

Comments

  • kageykagey Red Chipper, KINGOFTAGS Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭✭✭
    when I moved up to 2/5 - I made more money playing less hours.
    But I also spent more money getting training from sharp high-stakes players.

    some people are happy playing the lowest limits with little stress.
    others play the lowest stakes as a means to improve and move up stakes.

    nobody can tell you what is best for you.
    imo, it's sad to see a player with talent take it easy... it's like Billy Joel playing in the piano bars... you can do better... but if you don't want to - well, that's you're choice.
  • moishetreatsmoishetreats Red Chipper Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
    I agree with @persuadeo and @kagey.

    I also recognize that nerves for playing at a higher level and/or hesitancy with bankroll are real concerns. And, let's be honest: stoic as we can train ourselves to be at 1/3, it's almost impossible for players on a bankroll not to let that seep in consciously or subconsciously.

    That being said, if something is continually nagging at your to play 2/5, then you really ought to try it. If nothing else, that nagging instinct will affect your play at 1/3, again either consciously or subconsciously.

    So, how do you it? A few options:

    1) You're a trained accountant. Figure out right now what you can set aside for your 2/5 play to start your bankroll. If it goes disastrously, then you aren't taking away from your subsistence pie.

    2) Set aside a certain percentage of your winnings.

    3) You play on average six days per week. At the end of every week, roll a six-sided die. Whichever day that week correlated to the number that you rolled, put that money (or take out) from your 2/5 bankroll. Why the random die roll to determine which day? Because if we knew, for instance, that Wednesday was set aside, then that almost assuredly would affect our play that day and others.

    4) Forget about it. You know, grass is greener, greed is a bottomless pit, etc. You're happy, you're content, and you're relatively stress-free: practice some mindfulness and gratitude to appreciate where you are and what you have to return your focus to your profitable 1/3 game rather than to let other temptations stray your from your contented path.

    Good luck. And please keep up updated!
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sometimes all you need is a kick in the pants. My students and members of my forum are having Shot Taking Week starting Friday. Voila.

    Set aside the excuses and put your money where your win-rate is.
  • SullySully Red Chipper Posts: 772 ✭✭✭
    6 hours a day, 6 days a week is a true grind

    live a little, take some shots, get the juices flowing. Make it fun
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    I used to flip a coin, first flip was $2/5. If I flipped $2/5 2 or 3 times in a row, I played $2/5. If I missed, flip count reset. I played roughly 3:1 $1/3 to $2/5, and it was just fine.
  • moishetreatsmoishetreats Red Chipper Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
    Also, one other factor that I use: I call in for both 1/3 and 2/5. Then, when I arrive at the casino, I always look at the 2/5 game(s) first. Sometimes, there is just as much money at the 1/3 tables, in which case I'm happy to play there -- lower downside and almost equally as high ceiling. Other times, there are a couple of players at the 2/5 table that I just hate playing with. Yes, I know: push myself, etc. But, I can push myself when they're at the 1/3 tables. So, if the 2/5 game looks good, then I sit down there. Otherwise, I'm happy at 1/3.

    Personally, I tend to default to 2/5 during the weekdays and 1/3 on the weekends during the daytime. Weekend night games in general tend to be looser and wider. I find that the inevitable swings are more manageable for my bankroll at 1/3 those nights, and I'm willing to miss out on a couple of potential big nights to protect my bankroll.

    Like you, I use my poker winnings to pay my bills and don't have a separate poker fund. If I did, though, then I would be more willing to play 2/5 all the time and especially on weekend nights.
  • EazzyEazzy Red Chipper Posts: 951 ✭✭✭✭
    jfarrow13 wrote: »
    I used to flip a coin, first flip was $2/5. If I flipped $2/5 2 or 3 times in a row, I played $2/5. If I missed, flip count reset. I played roughly 3:1 $1/3 to $2/5, and it was just fine.

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    One of these might help you make the right decision. I use it as my card protector (well and 1879 two headed Morgan)
  • RCP Coach - Fausto ValdezRCP Coach - Fausto Valdez RCP Coach Posts: 829 ✭✭✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    Yes.

    very well said
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  • bigburge10bigburge10 Red Chipper Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    Yes.

    very well said

    He has a way with words. Without a doubt this post should go into his portfolio.
  • BourbonizeBourbonize Red Chipper Posts: 43 ✭✭
    Thanks for the input. It helps a lot.

    I went to play tonight and won $1,050 at 1/2....and again I ask myself, why bother to move up? haha

    But seriously, what I think I might do is try the 2/5 on weekends when there are 10 or so tables going and I can table select. Seems like a start.
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bourbonize wrote: »
    Thanks for the input. It helps a lot.

    I went to play tonight and won $1,050 at 1/2....and again I ask myself, why bother to move up? haha

    But seriously, what I think I might do is try the 2/5 on weekends when there are 10 or so tables going and I can table select. Seems like a start.

    Table selection is probably best boost in confidence. I go and sit at 2\5 and when it gets late at night and games tighten up I switch to an easy 2\3 game next to me.
    I'm not sure how sustainable my 2018 hourly is, but I added a new concept starting Jan 1 and I don't think it's a coincidence that my hourly has risen dramatically.

    What's the concept? Post some hands?

    Table selection can get you to the highest stakes. There are some players online stay at 1\2 forever and are content not taking more than a 2k swing and making 100k+ a year. Usually have to be 2\5 or more to make 100k+ a year. For a million im thinking 25\50. Im searching for the 100k a year but im not full time pro either.
  • SplitSuitSplitSuit RCP Coach Posts: 4,001 -
    Stupid? No.
    Making sub-optimal decisions? Almost certainly yes.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    Sometimes all you need is a kick in the pants. My students and members of my forum are having Shot Taking Week starting Friday. Voila.

    Set aside the excuses and put your money where your win-rate is.

    Speaking of, Shot Taking Week starts today. If anyone posts a really good shot taking report here, I will give them a pass to The Back Room.
  • ChipXtractorChipXtractor Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    persuadeo wrote: »
    Sometimes all you need is a kick in the pants. My students and members of my forum are having Shot Taking Week starting Friday. Voila.

    Set aside the excuses and put your money where your win-rate is.

    Speaking of, Shot Taking Week starts today. If anyone posts a really good shot taking report here, I will give them a pass to The Back Room.

    Oh shitz ... I was thinking about bumping up to the .05-.10 tables on Global. #LFG
    Twitter = @ChipXtractor
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With so many people shot taking, probably best to move down with all the good players gone.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Dean MDean M Red Chipper Posts: 183 ✭✭✭
    Picking on the beginners again? That's just mean...

    Testing a new 1000 BB range construction chart I presume

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