Casino rule on short buy-in + add on

AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
Casino has a rule on 1/3
Min buyin 100
Max buyin 300

Short buy $50 if you bust, but your next rebuy has to be at least min.

All that makes sense, but things get a little screwy when your stack gets short and you have chips already on the table.

Imo any money on the table is good money and casino should allow players to put more money on the table.

Last week was playing and the guy next to me dropped down to like $30 and only had $40 in his wallet, so he went to add on his last $40 and dealer would not let him because it's less than a short buy.

Same rule applies if I have say $200 on the table i can add on $50 one time, but the next time I want to top up it has to be to the max $300.

Some times ill buy 400 in chips and buyin for the max 300 and top off with the chips in my pocket. Some times when I lose a big pot and have $100 left in my stack ill stick the remaining $30 or whatever in my stack.

Didn't know this wasn't allowes and no one ever says anything nor they should cause im putting more money on the table. Usually ill pull out 200 and put the extra chips in my pocket.

I just think of it as online you can constantly add chips to your stack and not sure why the casino would reject something that favors the table in general.

Curious if all casinos do this? I think adding on anything above mininum is fine. For example on 2\5 if the min is $200 if i drop to $50 i should be able to top back up from $150 to $200 repeatedly. I don't agree with topping off to the max.

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  • Zero CoolZero Cool Red Chipper Posts: 272 ✭✭✭
    Where I play has the one short buy rule but if you still have chips they'll let you add as little as you want to your stack.
  • kenaceskenaces Red Chipper Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭✭
    Pretty strange set of rules - where do you play?

    I think every Casino I played in had min/max buy in on the placard(with the rake sitting next to the dealer). I think they all just had a min and max rule, allowed top up to max as long as you had chips. The only place I ever saw the one short buy rule was in club games.
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kenaces wrote: »
    Pretty strange set of rules - where do you play?

    I think every Casino I played in had min/max buy in on the placard(with the rake sitting next to the dealer). I think they all just had a min and max rule, allowed top up to max as long as you had chips. The only place I ever saw the one short buy rule was in club games.

    Bay101
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Las VegasPosts: 4,960 -
    That sounds really screwy. Did floor confirm this or did it not go beyond the dealer?

    Standard in NL is that if you have chips in play you can add any amount you please up to the cap. The only time I've ever heard that modified was in a LHE game in the midwest where if you had less than a BB in front of you it was regarded as 0 and you had to add-on at least the minimum.
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  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    That sounds really screwy. Did floor confirm this or did it not go beyond the dealer?

    Standard in NL is that if you have chips in play you can add any amount you please up to the cap. The only time I've ever heard that modified was in a LHE game in the midwest where if you had less than a BB in front of you it was regarded as 0 and you had to add-on at least the minimum.

    I had two floors confirm actually. I didn't believe the dealer.

    If im middle stack and don't have enough for cap buyin ill just go north with whatever chips I have. I seriously doubt anyone notices or says anything. Only time i hear people say anything is when they have big stack and player tries to buyin $500 in a 1\3 with max buyin of 300. Usually it's the dealer that says something but other times a player will be scared to lose his stack.
  • fmustang1981fmustang1981 Red Chipper Posts: 1 ✭✭
    edited March 3
    This looks a bit strange to me since I can't logically relate to these constraints. After all, this could really have a positive impact on the situation on the table and be beneficial for the casino. I have never seen such rules anywhere, apparently in every casino people have different points of view on this issue. In some casinos, I did come across rules that were directed towards the benefit of the casino and were not at all beneficial to the players. I don't immediately change casinos when I see something like this. I'm staying here now https://www.mobilewins.co.uk/ because of the comfortable rules towards the player. Often people don't even think about it, even though it directly affects how much they can lose.
  • ShamanShaman Red Chipper Posts: 38 ✭✭
    I have played all over the US and only seen rules for minimum buyins once player loses their stack. (like $50 in your example). There have been a few times where the rule has been bent to allow for a "short buy" of $40 or less for regulars. More or less its up to floor to enforce or turn a blind eye.

    As to adding on chips, I have never seen a rule where players had to add a minimum amount of chips to the stack. Players add whatever they want whenever they want out of their pockets. More money on table is better right? I could not imagine a floor enforcing a rule like only adding $50 at a time in a capped buyin game.

    Funny I have played at Bay 101 (San Jose?) and did not know they had that rule.
  • AKQJ10AKQJ10 Red Chipper Posts: 16 ✭✭
    edited July 16
    As live poker has boomed, a lot of people have gotten into floor roles who, sorry to say, are blind rule followers without really understanding the point behind the rules (even when they're involved writing the rules!).

    But Bay 101 isn't new to this. CA tends to have very restrictive buy-ins, both min and max, but still, They're apparently way overthinking this.

    One part I didn't understand:
    Austin wrote: »
    Casino has a rule on 1/3
    Min buyin 100
    Max buyin 300

    Short buy $50 if you bust, but your next rebuy has to be at least min.

    ...

    Same rule applies if I have say $200 on the table i can add on $50 one time, but the next time I want to top up it has to be to the max $300.

    Some times ill buy 400 in chips and buyin for the max 300 and top off with the chips in my pocket. Some times when I lose a big pot and have $100 left in my stack ill stick the remaining $30 or whatever in my stack.

    Didn't know this wasn't allowes and no one ever says anything nor they should cause im putting more money on the table.

    I understand making you rebuy to at least $100, I guess. (I would waive that for the guy with $40 in his pocket if the table doesn't object.)

    What's the logic in no letting you rebuy from $100 to $130?!? $130 is a valid buy-in between $100 and $300, right? Are they saying you can buy to $100 or $300 but nothing in between?

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