Half way through the year report

jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
Welp, figured I'd post a 1/2 way through the year report.
My goals for 2018 were to be a better player, but mainly have fun and play the game responsibly. I'd like to play 1-2 times a week on weekend days for 3-5 hours at a time, and hope to try to make about 5k this year playing $1/3 for an hourly (estimated) between $20-$30, but really as long as I'm not losing and having fun, that's all I want.
I've played 27 times for profit of $2,097 playing $1/3 with a rough hourly estimate of $23.12.



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As we can see from the graph....it's been rough recently. But losing teaches more than winning. Here's what I feel I'm good at.
1. Feel for the game, and willingness to bluff. More aggression than generally anyone at the table.
2. Feel for ranges, advantages, ect
3. More positionally aware, doing a lot less calling of opens, more stack size awareness.


Here what I need work on:
1. Stop trying to bluff people in low SPR pots. Just knock it off, even when you know they are weak, it's failing more than it isn't, but I just like can't stop when I pick up weakness in bet sizing tells or body language. And I feel like every time I triple barrel someone it like barely gets through in a 35-65 BB pot, and when triple in huge pots, 100 BB+, it doesn't really get through. Obviously this speaks to the natural cause that...if someone is calling down in 100+ BB pot...they are probably stronger than if they fold.
2. You don't have to fight for every pot, especially 3-bet pots. I just really dislike folding. And stop floating so much with a better plan. I just really hate folding to standard c-bets.
3. Stop watching LATB and other high stakes shows. People vastly under bluff at $1/3, and I just can't seem to find folds on draw heavy boards with TP, or over pairs. They most likely aren't bluffing, and even if they are, they probably got good equity.
4. Stop "snapping" certain rivers. I have a bad tenancy to make up my mind on turns, and if the river doesn't change a lot I'll just snap off certain bets. In a player pool that under bluffs, this is probably a bad idea. And it costs me 10-15 BB's at a time.
5. Actually do math work. An "idea" of ranges and odds will get you 20/hr (small sample size), but if you wanna be a 10+ BB an hour winner, I have to be able to make better informed decisions.
6. Mental game. Every time I've been there for like 3-4 hours and I'm just up $20-56 or down like $120, I end up doing something stupid. It's really hard for me to just walk away with an "average" day. And those days end up costing me $300-500. Also, during this recent downswing, I'm talking my losses pretty hard. Could be time for a 2 week break because now when I go play I have a nagging feeling in the back of my mind that "I'm gonna lose, I'm gonna run KK into AA or QQ into KK or AQ into AK for like the 4th time this month", which is a self-fulfilling prophecy.


I think a good weekish+ break would do me some good. In that time, hopefully pick up some software and tinker around with math and range work. Also, when I go back, don't be afraid to book a small win just to feel like I'm back on track by playing very ABC poker. Hope everyone

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  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good work and goals. Everything seems pretty realistic. I agree with everything you said. What's been costing me is 3betting AJ too much. Trying to avoid multiway pots and get HU. Idk if it's making me money or costing me. Recently costing me for sure, but overall im not sure. I feel 4x is profitable 3 bet with blockers, but maybe I should just fold despite the small iso raise sizing.

    Post some HH! I think #3 is key to 1\3 games.
    3. More positionally aware, doing a lot less calling of opens, more stack size awareness.

    Also LATB isn't bad if your watching the high stakes. Art & Dan play a pretty solid game. Watching what hands they fold preflop helps a lot of people.
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    Haha my hand histories are painful man and more or less redundant. The errors tend to be the noted things above: unwillingness to fold, incorrectly paying attention to stack sizes and reaching a turn or river where a bluff size is just not large enough compared to the pot, and just small little leaks here and there, usually mentally, where as soon as I do something I say to myself "that was stupid and not believable at all".

    For example: EP opens to $15 I call in the CO with :TD: :9D: . As soon as I do it I say to myself "do you even know what your trying to do besides flop a SD, FD, or 2 pair in position? This guy has $200. You just like suited connected cards and position, but your not even on the button. Wtf are you doing". Like, I don't have a plan. I wasn't paying attention to stack size. I was watching the Capital game and talking to that dude on the right.

    I just think LATB, while a great show and the "correct" way to play poker doesn't translate as well to my game. I see players making moves, and I see people making big call downs, and barreling, but I just don't have the proper mathematical range construction, and further when on the defensive, OOP, or in a callers shoes, I realistically just call too much.

    Good example: hero opens KQ to $21 after a few limpers, dude who is tired of me raising and kinda bluffy calls out of SB, heads up.

    Pot $45
    flop ten 7 2, 2 spades, he checks to me. This guy won't even give up a pair or a draw, and so betting here is pointless.
    Turn K he checks again and I bet $20, he calls.

    Pot $85
    River 3 of spades he leads out $45 I snap it.

    He turns over J8ss

    Did I math it out? Did I know at that time I'm 1:3 on my money? Gotta be good here 1 out of 3 times. In hindsight...I might say to myself "sure, he can have missed straight draw, or perhaps he's throwing out a blocker bet so he doesn't have to face a larger bet...but am I realistically good here 1 in 3 times? I dunno. I tell myself "mmmm your near the top of your range" but I think I may be lying to myself.

    Another good one
    EP opens to $15, me MP calls with AQ 2 more callers.
    Pot $60
    Flop Q Ten 9 2 clubs.
    He bets $35, i call, Folds
    Pot $130
    Turn 3 hearts.
    He bets $50 I call, fold,
    Pot $230
    River 7 D

    He bets $70 I snap it. Small sizing, maybe a KQ trying to make it to SD, or even missed clubs. Seemed a bit hesitant and scared, so definitely not a set, since he didn't really press harder on the betting size.
    He tables KK. Should I have taken more time to consider this? 4:1 BUT realistically....does he really barrel AK or clubs or JJ or AJ like this? KQ? AQ same hand? I don't think it's the worst call in my life, but...maybe it's not "lol standard call cooler!" as I kind wrote it off to be. Do I call with QJ? No. Do I call with KQ? Prob not. AQ? Ya. KK and AA? Can't have em, I'd have 4 bet. So AQ might be my only calling hand here. I raise all 2 pairs and sets. I raise my straights on the turn. I raise my combo FD's on the flop. I call my Ax FD's for 2 streets and fold on the river. So I guess yes, AQ is my only calling hand especially without the club. Still, maybe I should take the time at the table to go through that thought process, since I didn't do it then, I just knew AQ is too strong to fold, yet too weak vs his EP raise and 2-3 streets of betting to ever raise.


  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm officially busto on the year. I've lost the last 7/7 sessions, always being up early in the session, and then through the fact that either people catch on that I'm bluffing too much or kinda icy deck, I end up down. I have actually been playing very ABC and tight, only opening "marginal" hands from the CO and BU, instead of my somewhat normal any anywhere range, I've cut back on the 3-bets which win me a lot of small pots, but end up stacking me a lot, and just tried to play very solid and thought out poker. Sadder, is the fact that I had a rule of "if up X amount just leave" and I didn't do it...cause I felt I was playing really solid and running over the table. Then, I'd fight back, even making some really solid lay downs or sick call downs (one for 100 BB's if with 2nd pair that I took 3 minutes on and actually really sat through and thought out the hand, one of my best call-downs yet) but I never would leave. This run has been categorized as "run over the table early, but then continue to bluff at too high a frequency". Back when I was crushing $1/3 for $65 an hour, I wouldn't play for more than 2 hours, and I didn't have a session above $450 cashing. Now, I cause of work, school, and a girlfriend, when I get the rare golden chance to play, I want to play as long as I can.

    I think it's time to hang up the cleats for the foreseable future. I'll leave the year up 1.2k, but the "poker cash fund" has run out, and at this point, a losing $300 for a buy-in hurts more than $100-400 won helps.

    What did I learn on the year:
    - Rules about playing help. Stick to them. If your too weak to walk away or follow your rules, your at the mercy of emotion, something that no poker player needs at the table.
    - I like to drink and be LAGGY. This leads to huge swings. And I'm an action player. Make sure you got the bankroll to back this up, or do your own research and know the math. A lot without math is just a fish. Smashing chips into the middle for FE isn't a strategy, not after the first hour or two.
    - It's OK to fold. Top pair. Man, I really hate folding. LATB and other poker shows don't reflect $1/3, at least when it comes to certain defending strategies.
    - Do it for the love of the game. I plan to play again, probably when school ends, and I'm back working fulltime, I'll take out 3K and try to make a run at low stakes poker again. But having a bankroll and being able to play consistently where when I was my best.
    - Hire a coach. I have a general strategy, but it's rough. If I make another serious run even for recreation, it'll be with a bankroll and a coach. No more second guessing. No more "just for the lolz". A coach provides a framework for life.
    - Poker isn't easy money: I've gone on sick runs, and sick downswings. And at times I've thought: man, I'm crushing this poker shit, I should just do this full time. Other times, I've left the casino at 5 AM with a girlfriend who wants to break up with me, and my sleep schedule about to ruin my school and work life. Poker isn't "easy money". It is mentally taxing, and unless you got a full time job, and it's really "LOL 100 BB BI IDGAF", it can hurt you. If your a rec player, don't ever chase the highs of this game and put other things that will matter a lot more at risk. You aren't owed wins cause you think your good. Your AA will get cracked, a lot. Your equity isnt' a sure fire thing. This is high risk investing at it's finest, bring the mental attitude of being prepared of lose, but don't expect to lose.


    That's about all. When I started this year, I wanted to make $500 a month or 5k total, and have fun. I didn't ever want to lose $. And I'm not afraid to walk away with my 1.2k after losing 3k in the past 2-3 months. Thanks to everyone on this site for the help, and I hope to be back and even offer options here and then. Good luck on the tables :).

    Balance.
  • BoilerAceBoilerAce Red Chipper Posts: 396 ✭✭
    I can only hope one day to have a +$20/hr hourly rate at $1/$3. Kudos to you..that's great stuff.
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Couple things ill agree with and couple things ill disagree with.

    1) getting a coach sounds like a super solid option.
    1.1) I would also invest in snowie or pio. Ever since I got snowie I've been on a sick 8.9k heater winning 30 of my last 33 sessions. PIO will be most helpful as a long term assistant for you.
    2) i disagree with the mindset of "running over the table." Not to need but your results speak for themselves. You should have a strategy that allows you to play as much as you like and consistently make money. Not a strategy that FAILS when people catch on. I go in with a mindset of these people don't like folding. I pick some decent bluffing spots, but it's with blockers, equity, and usually tags or nits that think I'm playing tight.
    3) drinking and playing laggy don't really mix... Playing "laggy" in general for 1\3 and 1\2 doesn't really do well. Players are not good enough to fold to your bluffs. I have no problem with people drinking and playing, but I rarely see long term winners who do both and try and justify it.
    4) terms of sleep schedule interfering with work and school you have to have consequences and rewards for your actions. I have this same problem. In the past what I did, since I was focused on money, I took split suit advice and stuck a buyin into a jar. If i passed my 4 hours I would lose that buy-in. Takes a long time to build a habbit.
    5)I always question how much people actually study because there are those that are succeeding that are spending 10-20+ hrs a week. People have different ways of studying. For me it's constant HH facing different profiles and stack sizes. Snowie helps have an overall grasp if things, just have to tweak it a little bit to fit low stakes or even high stakes for that matter.
    6) why not use the 1.2k as a bankroll? Yes, its only four buyin but its a start. I would take rest of the month. Watch the core and the course. Take detail notes. Write down preflop ranges and really form a robotic type strategy of bet sizing you will play with your range.
    7) I would throw lag out of the window. Stick to tag. You can climb all the way up to the top with this.... Oh, use the 1.2k for coaching and online play for global poker? Should be able to grind 10c\20c comfortably while you build your fundamentals. Games are pretty soft since people don't have a hud.

    I would spend like $800 on coaching, software, and training sites. Save the other $400 for online bankroll, gives you 20 buyins. Definitely spend more time with strategy and studying than playing. Once your beating 10\20c go back and apply it to the casino.

    Best of luck! Always be honest with yourself. Fastest way of improving.
  • NYCRyNYCRy Red Chipper Posts: 336 ✭✭✭
    Unless you've decided you need to use your free time for other things, I like Austin's suggestion of using your $1200 and just keep playing. And it doesn't have to be just 4 buy ins. Drop down in stakes and buy in to $1/2 for $100. You have 12 buy ins. If you'd rather do 9 buy ins its 150 or 6 buy ins is 200. If I remember correctly you are a personal trainer right? Me too. When I decided 21 months ago that I was going to take poker seriously the #1 rule I made for myself was STAY IN ACTION. And that simply means good bankroll management and good tilt control. You have to see the hands. Learn the spots, etc. Assuming you have stats to prove you are a winning player in the long run that's all you need to remind yourself of. Taking time off costs you money and experience.
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks fellas, but when I say the $1200 + in the positive it means I burned the $1200 on school and bills, there is no "cash" fund left. So I'm content to part the year with the knowledge that at least some of it went to a good cause. I'll be back eventually, maybe I'll snowie, but I don't see a spot in my life upcoming where I will be able to really try to put in a lot of time with snowie to be a $1/3 or $2/5 crusher like I had hoped to be. I may be back in 8 months, or maybe a year, or maybe never. Maybe I'll just bring a $300 buy-in and have fun. But I think that the pipe dreams of being a $2/5 or $1/3 crusher just requires a lot of time and dedication, and poker carry's a lot of negative stigma with the loved ones, and so I have to weight a passion of mine vs what it might cost me in my personal life. For now, the shelves, and home games with my friends.
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Global poker Sunday night's..... @Jules
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    ALRIGHT. Here's where this belongs. Playing 10NL.
    Creating new, prob too tight, ranges:
    EP: 88+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+
    MP: 55+, ATs+, KJs+, AJo+, KQo
    LP: 22+, A2s+, K9s+, QTs+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A8o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo
    Calling and 3-betting out of the blinds....I just kinda do it sporadically based on how I think it will play. I fold a ton out of the blinds to EP opens. I 3-bet a ton out of the blinds vs CO/BU opens. I rarely call out of the blinds, except with hands that are basically PP, which can hit flops hard or fold. This needs to be worked on, but...it's a pretty safe strategy for now.

    What to work on next: Figure out fold to 3-bet, call 3-bet, and 4 bet ranges from each position.

    I've changed my betting patterns to 1/2--1/3rd C-bet continuation on static boards with most of my range, checking unfavorable boards to PFR, and 2/3rd sizing on wet boards that favor my range.


    What I need to work on: Folding when raised where there are little bluffs. I've picked off a few bluffs here and there sure, but if I could look at my call downs in big pots, I'm probably way in the - . Also, I've had some pretty bad run outs for some of my big hands where I got the money in good and it just didn't hold. Also, sizing up larger than 2/3rds pot when I'm polarized towards my nut end, but they also have really good hands. I'm leaving value on the table by just clicking buttons LOL 2/3rds for value gogog. Click that pot bruh.
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    Was up 5 buy-ins, again, one of my biggest leaks is when I get 2-4 really good hands going at the same time, I click button or I fold by accident cause I run out of time lost 2.75 buy-in in like 35 seconds. Infuriating to play so well all day and then lose it like that.


    Here are the hands #1
    V 1 UTG ($7) opens .25 folds around to hero in SB (16.93) with :AH: :KD: who 3-bets to $1, V-2 (6.48) BB calls $1, UTG 1 calls

    Pot $2.84

    Flop :8C: :KS: :4H:
    Hero bets $1.89, V-2 calls, V-1 folds

    Turn :QS:
    Hero SHOULD check, but he's in a bunch of other hands, I think I looked over and saw V had less than 1/2 pot left, hero just pots it V snaps

    V :4C: :4D:

    SO...the turn should be a check, as JJ and 10's now will likely fold, KQ has pulled ahead, and sets are still killing you. There is no value in a bet here. I can still potentially call if he ships the turn and not feel too bad, this is a semi-cooler but the turn bet is a mistake. Just check the turn and try to leave bluff intact.

    Hand #2
    V-1 Utg + 1 limps ($4), V-2 ($10) opens .35, folds to hero ($15.01) in BB :AC: :AH: 3-bets to $1.20.
    V-1 calls, V-2 folds

    Pot $2.65
    Flop :5C: :TD: :9D:
    Hero bets $1.77, V calls $.177

    Pot $5.99
    :JC:
    I remember being like omfg w.e check, V checks, River :QC: hero C V shoves, hero calls of $1.07 V :AD: :KD:

    Not as bad as I remember. I think I should just ship the turn, but I don't think I looked at his stack size.


    Hero ($19.48) utg + 2 :TS: :TD: opens .3, V-1 MP-2 ($11.43) 3-bets .77, folds around hero calls .47

    Pot $1.70
    Flop :2C: :4C: :7H:
    Hero (time) check, V bet .85, hero $1.70, V $2.55 hero call. THIS IS THE MISTAKE. If I had more time I'd be like alright man, overpair or like :AC: :KC: , :KC: :QC: you got it. I just panic clicking buttons.

    Turn :5D:
    V $3.26 hero calls, and I remember being like I'ma ship this river on a club.

    Pot $12.67

    Hero looks over at V stacks...it's $4.29. God...damn it. He's never folding. THE CLOCK HAS KILLED ME.

    River :8S: hero checks v checks V KK, for a $12.67 pot. He was giving me a great price to call pre-flop, and I wanted to C/r his overs off their equity. When he plays back at me on the flop, it's time to toss it. I just was playing all those others hands above and kept hearing BEEP BEEP BEEP. I've never realized dime poker could tilt me so much, not cause of the cards, but because the time crunch. This happens like once a sessions, where I get really good cards on 4+ tables, and I have to make like 2 seconds decisions. I even fold top set of AA on one table. Perhaps it's time to regress to 5 tables until this stops? It seems like this happens once a session.
  • AceFromSpaceKKAceFromSpaceKK Red Chipper Posts: 276 ✭✭✭
    jfarrow13 wrote: »
    Was up 5 buy-ins, again, one of my biggest leaks is when I get 2-4 really good hands going at the same time, I click button or I fold by accident cause I run out of time lost 2.75 buy-in in like 35 seconds. Infuriating to play so well all day and then lose it like that.


    Here are the hands #1
    V 1 UTG ($7) opens .25 folds around to hero in SB (16.93) with :AH: :KD: who 3-bets to $1, V-2 (6.48) BB calls $1, UTG 1 calls

    Pot $2.84

    Flop :8C: :KS: :4H:
    Hero bets $1.89, V-2 calls, V-1 folds

    Turn :QS:
    Hero SHOULD check, but he's in a bunch of other hands, I think I looked over and saw V had less than 1/2 pot left, hero just pots it V snaps

    V :4C: :4D:

    SO...the turn should be a check, as JJ and 10's now will likely fold, KQ has pulled ahead, and sets are still killing you. There is no value in a bet here. I can still potentially call if he ships the turn and not feel too bad, this is a semi-cooler but the turn bet is a mistake. Just check the turn and try to leave bluff intact.

    Hand #2
    V-1 Utg + 1 limps ($4), V-2 ($10) opens .35, folds to hero ($15.01) in BB :AC: :AH: 3-bets to $1.20.
    V-1 calls, V-2 folds

    Pot $2.65
    Flop :5C: :TD: :9D:
    Hero bets $1.77, V calls $.177

    Pot $5.99
    :JC:
    I remember being like omfg w.e check, V checks, River :QC: hero C V shoves, hero calls of $1.07 V :AD: :KD:

    Not as bad as I remember. I think I should just ship the turn, but I don't think I looked at his stack size.


    Hero ($19.48) utg + 2 :TS: :TD: opens .3, V-1 MP-2 ($11.43) 3-bets .77, folds around hero calls .47

    Pot $1.70
    Flop :2C: :4C: :7H:
    Hero (time) check, V bet .85, hero $1.70, V $2.55 hero call. THIS IS THE MISTAKE. If I had more time I'd be like alright man, overpair or like :AC: :KC: , :KC: :QC: you got it. I just panic clicking buttons.

    Turn :5D:
    V $3.26 hero calls, and I remember being like I'ma ship this river on a club.

    Pot $12.67

    Hero looks over at V stacks...it's $4.29. God...damn it. He's never folding. THE CLOCK HAS KILLED ME.

    River :8S: hero checks v checks V KK, for a $12.67 pot. He was giving me a great price to call pre-flop, and I wanted to C/r his overs off their equity. When he plays back at me on the flop, it's time to toss it. I just was playing all those others hands above and kept hearing BEEP BEEP BEEP. I've never realized dime poker could tilt me so much, not cause of the cards, but because the time crunch. This happens like once a sessions, where I get really good cards on 4+ tables, and I have to make like 2 seconds decisions. I even fold top set of AA on one table. Perhaps it's time to regress to 5 tables until this stops? It seems like this happens once a session.

    Yeah dont play that many tables!
    Hand #1: you should probably check but you lose anyway, no big deal.
    Hand#2: shove turn. So many worse hands can call.
    Hand#3: fold to 3bet at these stakes I guess...
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    Hand#3: fold to 3bet at these stakes I guess...
    I actually think that A. V gave me way too good of a price to fold, even for a set mine here. On the flop, I think that a C/r is fine to fold out his equity of his overcards like AK, people don't often 3-bet AQ KQs at these stakes, and the small raise screams of value, but once he 3-bets me on the flop, this is a fold.

  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    Bank roll doubled. $100-->$200 playing 10NL, as well as 3 tournaments, placing 3rd out of 274 entrants ($1.1 tournament for a $28 prize. Way to waste my run good on a $1 tournament). This site doesn't really provide comprehensive stats such as total hands or hours played, but I'm fine with that. Onward to $300 then I'll throw in some 25 NL tables with my 10 NL's for shot taking.
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    Recovered back to $200 after going from $235--->$65, which involved some run bad, as well as some just general tilt punting, as well as poor frequency and range construction.

    Changes I've made: There are no 4-bet bluffs at 10NL. As much as it pains me, I now fold my KK, QQ and AK to 4-bet's, and 4-bet shoves, unless I have good notes on the player that they are maniacs.

    I now probably over-fold my high end of my range on dry boards where there is a raise. They just aren't raise bluffing KQ on K 8 5 when I have AK. And it's so rarely 67, and so much more often 88 or 55, and even if it was 67, they got a good amount of equity. It really pains me, but I just have started folding these, instead of stacking myself for 100 BB's, or calling flop raise, call turn raise, and fold to river.


    Really paying attention to boards, range advantage, and actually not betting as much. I think I used to get myself in a lot of trouble by betting hands that don't really have a point in betting, that aren't bluffs, aren't for value, and can't stand up to pressure.

    I recently played with my friends in a home game, and I can't believe how much I've improved in terms of I felt like I was about to literally just dissect everyone's play. Even a guy who used to play semi-professionally, I realized that he's just so predictable in his bet sizing, and his play. Here's a hand I played against him which I'm pretty proud of

    6 players, blinds .5/$1 (60 BB buy-in)
    2 limps (they always limp),
    Hero :AS: :JC: on BU makes it $4.5,
    V-calls BB limpers fold.

    Pot $11~
    :TH: :TS: :3H:
    V checks, hero checks. No point in betting, I'm likely ahead, this falls into the category of "I used to be lol, cause I doubt he has anything" but then when I get called I'm like UH HO SCAWY SCAWY.

    Turn :7D: V checks, hero bet's $5.50, if V had a PP, or even hit a 7 or a had a 10 he'd have bet at this point. While he's a decent enough to make $, he still will bet for protection. V raises to $15. He wouldn't do this with his sets, 10's or a PP. If he did have a PP, he's for sure not raises. I'm guessing a FD that was hoping to C/R on the flop. I call

    Pot $44
    River :2C: V bets $13.50. Lol. What's that I see? A smaller bet than the raise? Surely now is the chance to stack an overpair with your cheeky slow played FH or 10. Why not put me all in? And if you had such a hand, why raise x3 on the flop? He's a super value oriented player. I laugh for a bit, and count out my $15 call in chips and am "you ready to see me light $15 on fire? This is a big dick call here. I only got A high." He laughs that laugh with a smile that fades quickly...one of my favorite tells of feigned happiness. I call. He's like "are you serious? You only have A high?" He looks at his cards for a while...then shows :KH: :QH: . Feelsgoodman, and a call I wouldn't have made prior to online, I'd just assume "they got it."


    Anyways, other adjustments I've made online are
    My opening sizes now reflect my position. EP is 4 BB's, MP is 3 BB's, late position is 2 BB's.

    Beating the bots! (God I hate them, and there are 3 bots that I see that regularly populate my 10NL games (and one really good 25NL bot, maybe he's a real player, but this guy or bot is always crushing the games...seems to have moved on from 10NL)
    - Bots will often 2/3rds for value. Adjustments I've made to attempting to beat bots are
    A. Flatting hands that I would 3-bet vs them IP, so that they will actually value bet themselves to death, and I can min-raise them on the river, which they will often call with second best.
    B. Taking obscure lines vs them, with blockers, that represent hands they will fold to. This means large over bets with 2nd pair and bottom hands on the turn or river, which they frequently fold TP or over pairs to. Don't do this on boards where draws brick out.
    C. Unlike vs human players lay them really enticing prices to call, even with 2nd and 3rd pair on the river. Bots will math out that they don't have to be good vs often when you bet small on the river, but will rarely raise you as a bluff.
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    Finally shipped a tournament, and have moved on from NLHE online to PLO. NLHE is just so bot infested at this site, and so NITTY at 10NL, there's so little value to be gained. I'm putting together a lot of solid PLO winning sessions and studying tournament/PLO game play, these 2 game types appear to be the softest on this site.


    Up to $700 now....Maybe I'll switch back to NLHE at 25NL for a while...but why change from the system that seems to be working so well. While winning the tournament was really exciting, especially after I continue to min cash, min cash, top 9, 5, 5, 8 finish, busto busto busto busto, I realize that MAN...you just gotta run soooo good to ship one. The hand that basically cemented my win was set over set, there were 3 players with 115k~ stacks (myself in there), and everyone else around 65-20, and set of 77 over set of 22 put me so firmly in the chip lead, I just leaned on every1 else to basically cruise to a victory. Stuff before that is just....winning your flips, holding on your all-ins...and slowly stealing blinds here and there from LP/SS players who desperately wanna survive pay jumps.
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭
    From 1.3k ---> $400. Where have I gone wrong? Well, like all clowns who won a few tournaments and let it go to their head, I made some ill advised higher stakes tournament entries. In addition, after winning 3 tournaments in the month of October, my Nov and December tournament results have been 3 wins! In $200, $200 and $300 GTD's. $44, $44, and $56. Which I won't sneeze at, but I can't seem to even sniff the final 20 with a stack above 10 BB's. It might have something to do with the fact that I really dislike joining tournaments at the beginning, and that I like to come into the with 1 hour left in registration, where I start with 20-25 BB's, and am just really patient. I just really don't want to nor do I have the time to dedicate 3+ hours to try to min-cash for $10 profit. But I may try to re-visit that. Alas, nothing on the 600, 1k, 1.5k (or the 60k, 25k, 25k). Also, I haven't had the most time to continue to work with flopzilla and all-in expert. ALSO...some brutal PLO run, in which I'm either a large or slight EV favorite, and I just can't hold or get there. ALSO, some untimely sports betting choices, in which the bet's I am hammering aren't there, and the bet's that I do for standard sizing hit. Overall, I'm still up 4x bankroll, and now have settled back into .05/.1 NLHE and PLO, after getting knocked around at .5/$1, .25/.5 and .10/.25.


    Still, when I AM focused, I can feel myself playing much better poker, even if I occasionally am pushing FE that isn't there. My biggest problem in tournaments is that I think I need to be more patient around my 10-20 BB stack. I just start to panic a bit, and try to steal a bit too heavily with decent Aces from BU ect, and it may buy me a few BB's, but ultimately I often end up running into a decent PP or have to win a coin-flip, which takes the skill out of the game.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 2,013 -
    A quick thought on this that got in my head thanks to an upcoming video on bankroll management by Adam Jones. I don't want to scoop the video, but one theme is that many people err too much on the side of caution and pass up opportunities to take shots. So in the context of your post, winning some tournaments then playing bigger ones need not be an issue if you then have the discipline to grind away at smaller ones again and not get distraught.

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