QQ $2/$5 100bb EP vs EP facing a 4 bet

AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Curious what other $2/$5 players think of this. Usually in EP vs EP i'll flat call QQ some times on a tight table and 3 bet if it's a looser table, so I am more likely to go heads up. Snowie has QQ as just a call preflop and a fold vs a 4 bet as a BIG error.

I decided 5 betting was not the best play and flat calling was the best and basically continue on any non ace or king flop.

QQ 40% vs AK+ KK+
QQ 27% vs AKs+ KK+

By flatting preflop I get to realize my equity a bit more without risking my entire stack.

What are your thoughts on playing QQ vs a 4 bet in $2/$5 games?

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  • Baby_SharkBaby_Shark Red Chipper Posts: 74 ✭✭
    Snowie is sick! If I have the intention of folding to a 4-bet against an opponent's range, I'm never 3 betting QQ. It's too good to turn into a bluff. QQ is 3 bet and shove, or flat in position.

    Against what pfr% would you 3bet/shove? For me it's someone whose not limping from EP and forking their range, and opening EP liberally.

    In this example, the 4 bet is huge.
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Baby_Shark wrote: »
    Snowie is sick! If I have the intention of folding to a 4-bet against an opponent's range, I'm never 3 betting QQ. It's too good to turn into a bluff. QQ is 3 bet and shove, or flat in position.

    Against what pfr% would you 3bet/shove? For me it's someone whose not limping from EP and forking their range, and opening EP liberally.

    In this example, the 4 bet is huge.

    I've saw players play 27/20/2 before, so against this player I am not calling off their 4 bet because its 2%. Just opening a lot of pots is not enough. Need some 3 bet / 4 bet history. Snowie has the tightest EP range i've ever saw. Usually when I flat QQ its because they respect my 3 bet too much and I would rather have a bluff or they are super aggro and I feel I can easily call down or raise a dryish board and get action, say 223 vs 88 or something. Honestly I think 3 betting QQ is over rated and not sure if its optimal in general. It really helps strengthen your calling range post flop.
  • Christian SotoChristian Soto RCP Coach Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭✭
    2/5 Player isn’t 4Bing AK enough or bluffs so probably easy fold versus population, but still a good 3B.
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2/5 Player isn’t 4Bing AK enough or bluffs so probably easy fold versus population, but still a good 3B.

    Do you think it's a more profitable flat or profitable 3bet vs the $2\$5 pop?

    Usually if I flat its on a tight table if its EP vs EP.
    Or
    Loose table but say HJ opens and im CO ill flat here often as well vs an aggro player. Not that im worried about getting it in pre, but im likely to have position and win 2 bets postflop off him.

    Not sure which is more profitable.

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