Hero SB AJs vs BTN 160bb deep ($8,000)

AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭


Would you call the river?

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  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hand history
    $10-$25-$50
    Btn ($8000) opens $150
    Sb ($8000) 3bet :AD: :JD: $600
    Bb folds
    Straddle folds
    Btn calls

    Flop ($1275) :JS: :6H: :4C:
    Sb ($7400) bet 400
    Btn calls
    Turn ($2075) :3H:
    Sb (7k) check
    Btn bet 700
    Sb calls
    River ($3475) :4S:
    Sb ($6300) check
    Btn bet $4300
    Sb ???

  • Christian SotoChristian Soto RCP Coach Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2018
    LOL yes call quickly assuming he is capable of bluffing.

    He repping almost exactly 4x of hearts
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Christian Soto

    You don't think villain has
    Kk (6)
    Qq (6)
    Jj (1)
    66 (3)
    44 (1)
    75s (4)
    54dh (2)
    A4h (1)

    Also side question. The $5-$5+$5ante is looked at as being similar to $10\20 game, but there is $55 in the middle so pretty close to a $20\$40 game right? Or would you consider it closer to $25-$25 game?

    Given $10-$25-$50 there is $85 in the middle, so Bart says and many others treat the straddle as the BB.
    PSB would be $185, so closer to a $30\$60 game right? Small difference I guess
    But $8000 effective would be 160bb or 133bb effective?

    Curious how we should actually think in stack depth given a 3bb game? Or in Cali games where its already 3 blind game you add a straddle its a 4 blind game with first blind being on the BTN. So say the $5-$5-$10-$20 there is $40 in the middle is it a $20-$20 game or is it a $13\$27 game? PSB would be $80. For $1k stack is it 50bb deep or 37bb deep?
  • EatRunPokerEatRunPoker NY, NYRed Chipper Posts: 91 ✭✭
    Yeah I think he has to have a lot of heart broadway combos that he's bluffing here with, but it's a pretty sick spot that I think, as Bart mentioned numerous times, doesn't really happen if he maintains the betting lead on turn after V peels a wide range on that flop.

    But yes, I agree with Christian, call unless you have live info that this guy has no bluffs here, which is hard to imagine after you check turn and river. Anyone with a pulse has some bluffs here after the weakness demonstrated by hero.
  • Christian SotoChristian Soto RCP Coach Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2018
    I mean I guess he can some of that (apologies as I read the HH quickly and thought he was an overcaller and not he OR) but QQ+ still seems so unlikely.

    57s he can have as well as sets.
    So four combos of 57s, 66 for 3 and 1 of 44.

    I’m still calling though I think.

    What ended up happening
  • Baby_SharkBaby_Shark Red Chipper Posts: 74 ✭✭
    I think hero is so underrepresented after the turn (hero's range looks very dense in tt-77 to me here). As played, it feels as though hero thinks this opponent overbluffs and is trying to induce. I'm calling with a wry smile.
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I mean I guess he can some of that (apologies as I read the HH quickly and thought he was an overcaller and not he OR) but QQ+ still seems so unlikely.

    57s he can have as well as sets.
    So four combos of 57s, 66 for 3 and 1 of 44.

    I’m still calling though I think.

    What ended up happening

    Hero folded. Later Hero asked villain and villain said he had 33 for turned set. Not sure what PIO calls with on the flop.

    Flop ($1275) :JS: :6H: :4C:

    Guessing you can call with
    KQs (3)
    87s (4)
    Jxs BW (18)
    77-TT (18)
    55 (6)
    A10s-AQs (8)
    Q10s (3)

    *i think PiO would fold 33-22.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If hero is checking to call AJ on turn here he is likely checking most of his range. That means his value range carries over. Now, AJ is a truly marginal call at this price, right on the fringe of what he needs to defend.
  • kenaceskenaces Red Chipper Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    In solverland, AJ is 100% a call on river
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    Does he have any worse calls?

    I guess it is too dependent on oop turn strat.
  • kenaceskenaces Red Chipper Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    Does he have any worse calls?

    I guess it is too dependent on oop turn strat.

    AJ mixed on turn with mostly being bet

    Weak JXs are mixed between calls and folds. A6s is mixed with a river call about 1/3 of the time.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,965 ✭✭✭✭✭

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