A ON THE RIVER

giorgos pgiorgos p Red Chipper Posts: 10 ✭✭
Hello all
i played this hand in my last session and i am looking to see if there were any leaks in my line

GAME: 1/2 live casino
HERO SB $410 : :4c :5c
VILLAIN PLO REG BUTTON $ 650

Villain opens from button to 8$, hero 3bet to 25$
HU
FLOP :5h :4h :2d
Hero bets 40$ Villain calls

TURN :Ts
Hero bets 110$ Villain calls

RIVER :Ad
Hero shoves 235$ Villain calls and win with :Ah :Tc

Comments

  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 297 ✭✭✭
    Hey Giorgos...This may be hard to conclude without some info on villain. I think the range he ends up with on the river has a ton to do with how he handles his range vs your PS turn bet. Of course, also if he views you as 3betting light.

    BTW... there exists a live game that folds to the button? lol!

    Interesting spot.

    Just a basic run through for kicks, considering he calls pre with this:
    JJ-22,AQo-ATo,KQo-KTo,QJo-QTo,JTo,AQs-A2s,KQs-K9s,QJs-Q9s,JTs-J9s,T9s-T8s,98s-97s,87s,76s,65s,54s
    This is a pretty wide call range vs a live 3b so...

    If he shoves the turn with sets, straights, and 2p...

    Then ends up on river with 55 combos:
    JJ,33,ATo,ATs,76s,AhQh,AhJh,Ah9h,Ah8h,Ah7h,Ah6h,Ah3h,Ah2h,KhQh,KhJh,KhTh,Kh9h,QhJh,QhTh,Qh9h,JhTh,Jh9h,Th9h,Th8h,9h8h,9h7h,8h7h,[96]KcTh,KdTh,KsTh,QcTh,QdTh,QsTh,JcTh,JdTh,JsTh[/96]

    If he only calls your river shove with 17 combos of TP+, only 6 of those you beat.
  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 297 ✭✭✭
    Should've added that I really like this line and the lead up to get your stack in. Wondering tho if we have to stomp the brakes on this river card. You're check calling river for sure, but I think checking allows him to bluff more while lead shoving is called strong.
  • giorgos pgiorgos p Red Chipper Posts: 10 ✭✭
    First of all thank you for the time you spent to read the post and answer me. Villain is a PLO reg pretty solid in previous hands he had seen a bluff I had done with :Ah blocker in a flushy board and he had 3bet call pre with :As :Ah for trapping an aggro guy so thats for villain . i like the line too , i cant understand the float from his side and the turn call too
  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 297 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2018
    Ah. Well if he's flatting with QQ+/AK here then you're even more inclined to get the money in.

    I think his float is ok with overs, gutshot and BDFD. Can't see him folding when he hits one of his cards on the turn.

    I see you are in Greece. Looks like your lives games play quite differently than here in the USA.
  • giorgos pgiorgos p Red Chipper Posts: 10 ✭✭
    what do you mean when you say differently ? more tricky and difficult or smooth?
  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 297 ✭✭✭
    Well, to be fair, can't really judge from one hand. But looks a lot more like online play. Around my way, this hand would be uncommon.

    Folding to the button: uncommonly tight
    Re-steal with low sc: uncommonly aggro
    Flatting a 3b with ATo: well, maybe not too uncommon. Probably considered bad everywhere.

    Wish you had gotten a little more feedback on this one. Keep posting hands. There are a lot of very sharp minds on this forum to learn from.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paul is right about his floats. Even though they should trend fewer based on OP's sizing on flop, if he wants some, having the Ah in his hand is critical.

    However, that is just a segue to the real issue here - sizing. When you go very polarized, such as with this turn bomb, you should have some bluffs. Therefore, he can't fold on the turn, which you seem surprised by. Further, you want this call if you are valuing - so which is it? Your reaction suggests you are confused about your purpose.

    Note that he calls you with a hand that can likely fold pre, then goes with it. I would say you are likely perceived as a very aggressive player based on all his actions. You'll want to realize that, if this hand is an example of your overall game.
  • giorgos pgiorgos p Red Chipper Posts: 10 ✭✭
    persuadeo thank you for your reply too ... when i said i cant understand the float and the turn call i mean how his range contain :Ah :Ts from a solid reg , obviously i want this call on the river but for my plans he calls on the river with all AH XH,10 and some times with JJ+ for bluffcatcing. i like the sexy lagy side of the game without having managed to get her up to a level to move up stakes
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    well, you are being too absolute in a relational game. If you are light here very often, he gets to defend lighter.

    We also have the fact that he is a PLO player, and so will tend to defend and play postflop more than your average NLHE player - as he must in that game.

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