Tough preflop spot
Hi guys,
Tell me what you think of this spot.
1-2 NL
I have been at the table for about 4 hours, the game is playing pretty deep at this point and is getting kind of wild. More than a few times in the past hour 2 of the players are putting out blind bets of $30 preflop. These are not straddles, but non-live blind bets. 1 guy was doing this and then betting $100 post without looking at his cards. So yeah, the game is really good.
A new player came in and sat with $225, he took out black chips from his pocket, I think I have played with him before, but not too sure, he seems like an action player, but I have no hard evidence to back this up at this point.
Hero CO $860
UTG+2 (new guy) $225
I was dealt

UTG+2 calls, 2 more calls from mp players with 200ish stacks, I make it $25, Button goes all in for $34, SB $750 calls, UTG+2 makes it $105, folds to me. Hero?
Tell me what you think of this spot.
1-2 NL
I have been at the table for about 4 hours, the game is playing pretty deep at this point and is getting kind of wild. More than a few times in the past hour 2 of the players are putting out blind bets of $30 preflop. These are not straddles, but non-live blind bets. 1 guy was doing this and then betting $100 post without looking at his cards. So yeah, the game is really good.
A new player came in and sat with $225, he took out black chips from his pocket, I think I have played with him before, but not too sure, he seems like an action player, but I have no hard evidence to back this up at this point.
Hero CO $860
UTG+2 (new guy) $225
I was dealt


UTG+2 calls, 2 more calls from mp players with 200ish stacks, I make it $25, Button goes all in for $34, SB $750 calls, UTG+2 makes it $105, folds to me. Hero?
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I've heard the following logic describe this play: If someone else raises, I can reraise an already bigger pot and have a great chance to get it heads up. If no one else raises, I only have 1 BB invested so far so if it gets cracked, I lose less money. And, of course, the standard trope of weak players that their aces ALWAYS get cracked usually follows in short order.
However, I have a clear bias here given what stands for common strategy in my games. With no information on villain, I think it's hard to call here.The pot is $202 and you need to invest $80 more, so you're getting good odds with TT, methinks. But I think V is going to shove most flops with a stack of less than 1/2 the pot. So really isn't the decision whether we want to play for all V's stack with our TT? That's how I'm thinking of it. And I'm going to fold with no information on V.
........THIS
So this is what happened. The guy in sb with 750 called 105. The flop came
Sb goes all in for 650ish
Sb shows
Utg shows
Button shows
So yea, I woulda won sb's whole 750 stack set over set.
I got up and left after that hand booking a nice 550 win.
What do you honestly think of the fold?
So now you are in the upper portions of your range but on the cusp, 99-JJ. To fight against being squeezed off your equity or in this case, limp raised, you need to consider start playing back with your cusp hands because they become more valuable. Seidman wrote about this in his Diminishing Medium Value Category chapter.
Now a shortstack has also gone in, creating a bigger pot. The shortstack is looking for pairs and broadways to double with - wide not tight. This is incentive for any of the remaining actors to go lighter, as the ev of their raises goes up.
It's not that i am saying in certain pools this is not always AA et al. I know all about that, and that players in certain games aren't really doing anything more complicated that waiting for high value pieces of plastic. So, I can't speak to your respective pools, but i can guarantee that every limp raise in the world is not a 1% hand. Anyway, the results are not really that important. What is: unless a player is thinking about all these things, he can't really say he made a good decision, win or lose.
I figured his range was 99-AA, JQs- AKs, KQo-AJo, and maybe some sprinkling of other suited connectors, but not too many.
At the end of the day I just figured at best case I was flipping for $225 so I folded. But your post does make perfect sense, as this game was playing loose and deep. There were no omc's at the table.
I took the low variance route, cause Im broke haha.