Do I fold to a 3B Shove on this flop?

uglytunauglytuna Red Chipper Posts: 130 ✭✭
Should I be folding to a Flop 3B shove?

No history with the Villain?

Seat 1: AsNas (8846 in chips)
Seat 2: princed (5083 in chips)
Seat 3: vinoman24 (5979 in chips)
Seat 4: Rhegium (6772 in chips)
Seat 5: celebren (16851 in chips)
Seat 6: Redmanzer (5946 in chips)
Seat 7: UglyTuna23 (6686 in chips)
Seat 8: richNYC10567 (6394 in chips)
Seat 9: tjknapp84 (7443 in chips)
AsNas: posts the ante 25
princed: posts the ante 25
vinoman24: posts the ante 25
Rhegium: posts the ante 25
celebren: posts the ante 25
Redmanzer: posts the ante 25
UglyTuna23: posts the ante 25
richNYC10567: posts the ante 25
tjknapp84: posts the ante 25
tjknapp84: posts small blind 100
AsNas: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to UglyTuna23 [7h 7s]
princed: folds
vinoman24: folds
Rhegium: folds
celebren: folds
Redmanzer: folds
UglyTuna23: raises 577 to 777
richNYC10567: folds
tjknapp84: calls 677
AsNas: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd 3d Qs]
tjknapp84: checks
UglyTuna23: bets 1484
tjknapp84: raises 5157 to 6641 and is all-in
UglyTuna23: calls 4400 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (757) returned to tjknapp84
*** TURN *** [Qd 3d Qs] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [Qd 3d Qs 2c] [4d]
UglyTuna23 said, "nh"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tjknapp84: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
UglyTuna23: shows [7h 7s] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
tjknapp84 collected 13747 from pot
UglyTuna23 finished the tournament in 9th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13747 | Rake 0
Board [Qd 3d Qs 2c 4d]
Seat 1: AsNas (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: princed folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: vinoman24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rhegium folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: celebren folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Redmanzer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: UglyTuna23 showed [7h 7s] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 8: richNYC10567 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tjknapp84 (small blind) showed [Kc Kd] and won (13747) with two pair, Kings and Queens

Comments

  • LeChiffreLeChiffre NetherlandsRed Chipper Posts: 657 ✭✭✭
    Let's start by asking why you bet so large on a rather dry board?
  • uglytunauglytuna Red Chipper Posts: 130 ✭✭
    Typically I bet 39-40% but this player is a calling station.

    My bet was for value until his jams.
  • Michael EMichael E Red Chipper Posts: 125 ✭✭
    uglytuna wrote: »
    Typically I bet 39-40% but this player is a calling station.

    My bet was for value until his jams.

    When he stops being a calling station...change your strategy and opinion of him.
  • uglytunauglytuna Red Chipper Posts: 130 ✭✭
    Since my opinion and istratgey is off in this hand and I played ithr incorrectly. I am curious what the optimum line would be.

    Learning and absorbing.
  • Michael EMichael E Red Chipper Posts: 125 ✭✭
    uglytuna wrote: »
    Since my opinion and istratgey is off in this hand and I played ithr incorrectly. I am curious what the optimum line would be.

    Learning and absorbing.

    I think you recognized it in your statement....now to just follow through. My bet was for value until he Jams....okay, new information. Absorb it and follow through on what this means. Had he called...keep value betting it! When he raises, take a station at their word as having a Queen or Boat.
  • uglytunauglytuna Red Chipper Posts: 130 ✭✭
    If V is raising for value, what hands am I beating? Maybe I should take my vulnerable hand try to realize my equity and get to showdown. Betting so large my actions are not really for value but rather denying equity.

    With my bet sizing can I fold my pair now after committing so many chips?

  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper Posts: 4,393 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wait, who is the calling station here?

    When you try to exploit, you risk exploitation. Never one without the other.

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