Profitable in Every Position?

Dale_DegagneDale_Degagne Red Chipper Posts: 4 ✭✭
Question for the players out there who are consistently profitable in the long term...

I was doing some leak finding, and was curious - as a profitable player, are you profitable in all spots? Or just more profitable in the easier spots to compensate for weaker ones. ie. Do your button winnings just make up for the losses you take in the Blinds, or are your blind spots profitable too?



  • AceFromSpaceKKAceFromSpaceKK Red Chipper Posts: 303 ✭✭✭
    The closer you get to the button the bigger your profit should be. It's pretty hard to have positive numbers from the blinds.
  • Michael EMichael E Red Chipper Posts: 125 ✭✭
    When I used to play FTP before Black Late position profits made up for my blind losses.

    However, I was only a slight winner online as I was happy with the Rakeback Profits.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre NetherlandsRed Chipper Posts: 657 ✭✭✭
    It's practically impossible to make a profit in the blinds.

    When you think about it, all poker is about is negating the loss of 1.5BB every orbit. Whenever you decide to play a hand it should be profitable, otherwise there's no point. So yes, you should be profitable from every position aside from SB and BB, and you should be profitable in the blinds when you decide to play your hand.

    Positional advantage in LP should of course skew your profits that way.
  • LoveFishLoveFish IllinoisRed Chipper Posts: 146 ✭✭
    edited December 2018
    You will always lose money in the blinds long term. It’s the one spot that is impossible to be profitable at imo as you have to put chips in no matter what and are always out of position.
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 5,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ie. Do your button winnings just make up for the losses you take in the Blinds


  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 5,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    When you think about it, all poker is about is negating the loss of 1.5BB every orbit.

    So that's another way to look at it. If you look at it like poker costs 1.5 blinds per orbit, and that money is already "gone" when you sit down, then you actually get a discount for playing the blinds (the big blind is free) and you could make a profit from the big blind in some games. But most people assume you lose 1 BB when you actually play the hand in the big blind, in which case it's almost impossible to be profitable on that hand.

    If you think about it, most low stakes games would still work fine if there were no blinds at all. Theoretically the blinds have to be there as seed money to start the fight over something, but most people aren't really aware of this ($15 raises in $1/2 games make the blinds virtually irrelevant anwway). This isn't true in higher stakes games with better play and smaller raises, but you could have a low stakes game where there were no blinds and no rake, but paying the casino time only. This game would work fine, and then you should be profitable in the blind positions. (After all, if you're not profitable UTG in a regular game, then you have a leak.)

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