Size betting with a Set on a Flush-Draw Board.

Julio CoelhoJulio Coelho Red Chipper Posts: 12 ✭✭
Hey there guys,

Here is a hand that I played yesterday:
1/2 Pot Limit Holdem (10-handed) - Eff. Stack of about $300

Pre-flop:
UTG: Calls
MP2 (HERO): Raise to $11(Pot) (K♣️Q♠️)
CO: Calls
BTN: Calls
SB: Calls
BB: Calls
UTG: Calls

Flop ($66) 6-handed
A♠️Q♥️2♣️

MP2 (HERO): C-bet $22
CO: Calls
BB: Calls
UTG: Calls

Turn ($132) 4-handed
Q♣️

MP2 (HERO): Bets 85$
Everybody folds
UTG shows A♦️

The players on this table were mostly fish and would get in to see a flop with most of their hands (They came to play and see flops).
UTG has made some hero folds, folding KK on a A-7-2 board.

QUESTION:
I have bet $85 to not allow players to have the right odds for the flop.

How much should I have bet to extract the most value from this hand?

Should I have played the turn differently? Perhaps check-raise?

Thanks guys!

Comments

  • Steve JonesSteve Jones Red Chipper Posts: 95 ✭✭
    I think 85 is ok because there are 3 people that are still in the hand. Against 1 or 2 people, i guess I make it 60 to 70.
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    It's called trips, not a set.

    You can't bet on the turn to give odds to see the flop.

    Backdoor flushes are much less likely (after betting the flop) so they don't have to be protected against as much.

    It's not at all unlikely that someone called you with an ace in their hand, so with 6 players in the hand c-betting this flop is probably not a good idea.

    Bombing the turn makes it too easy for people to play correctly against you. A weak little suck bet on the flop (which is probably how it later will be perceived on the turn) and then bombing the turn when the board pairs it's just too difficult for most people to call with their most likely holding, which is pair of aces weak kicker. In other words, you're most likely to get called on the flop when you're behind, and get folds on the turn when you're ahead. This is a little backward.

    Let's say for example you had AJ instead. Would you have played the hand the same way? If not, then your range needs a little protection probably.

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