A7 Suited Big Blind

Jordan PowerJordan Power Red Chipper Posts: 429 ✭✭✭
Happy Holidays, Red Chippers. Wanted to get some feedback on a hand I played tonight.

$1/$3 NL at MGM National Harbor, Saturday evening, 5 hours into session.

Hero ($990) is dealt :AD: :7D: in the big blind. I'm playing at an extremely passive table, which is surprising for this casino. Usually a ton of action. 5 players limp to Hero who raises to $27. Only UTG ($1,200) calls.

UTG seems to be fairly tight. He is an unknown V.. He's also clearly been at the casino an incredibly long time. I initially sat down next to him, but the smell was putrid and I relocated nearly immediately. He's falling asleep at the table and has to be woken up to fold his hands a few times per orbit.

While V was tight, I had not seen him limp/call into a pot in a while. He would limp in myriad positions but rarely continued once someone raised. I have no idea how he built the stack, but he was at $1400 when I showed up and has not been past many flops. A range here for V was really tough to nail down. I think he could have limp called pocket pairs like 22-88 (but this is sort of a guess), some weak aces if they were suited, maybe ATo, Qx hands like Q8-QJ, K9-KJ, suited connectors like 78-TJ... tough to pin this down. I just haven't seen much of his cards at showdown.

Flop ($66): :Td: :4d: :8h:

I elect to cbet this flop for two reasons:

1) With this tight player, I am not going to make much money when I hit my draw unless he has a worse flush, so I want to get some money in now.
2) I think this bet will generate a fold a ton of the time and I'll just take it down here.

I c-bet for 35 and am min-raised to 70. I call.

Turn ($136): :2C:

Hero checks. V tanks a while, muttering 'snap calls a raise' a few times. (I don't typically have this much detail but V is being so weird in this hand, I'm including it.) After a solid 2 minutes, he checks back.

River ($136): :3H:

Hero? I'm sort of at a loss on boards like these. I don't know what I'm repping if I were to bet here. In my still fairly novice poker mind, it's hard for me to rep a strong hand on this board because my raise in the big blind is going to look 'steal-y' and it sort of was.

I got the odds to call the min-raise, obviously, so continuing on this board on the flop was no problem. Checking the turn to the raiser seems fine to me. If he fired again, based on the bet I could fold or call. But on the river, unless I'm trying to sell A5 what big hands do I have here? I would reraise with sets on the flop; the only combos of two pair in my range are T8 here. When we get to the river, can I actually rep these hands with a, say $125 bet?

When V decides to check the turn, I honestly think he's got some form of a ten, and a single pair, and was trying to charge a flush draw. My preflop range for V only has a few tens in it. JT, T9, AT... maybe this is too narrow, but when he checks back the turn, I think that signals that he's not too strong here.

How does $125 sound for a bluff here? I have 0 SDV and I thought this might be a spot where V might fold to a larger river bet. Thoughts appreciated.


  • Jordan PowerJordan Power Red Chipper Posts: 429 ✭✭✭
    Something I just thought of: is there value in re-reraising the flop? V doesn't have many combos in my mind that crush this board. But having to take this raise to $230ish with the stacks so deep seems a recipe for disaster. I didn't even consider a raise there in real time.
  • accessdeniedx2accessdeniedx2 Red Chipper Posts: 35 ✭✭
    As a novice also, I think I remember Bart Hanson saying that a min raise here could be more for information... to see where top pair is at?
  • RedRed Red Chipper Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭✭
    Flop: It's a range construction question: on the flop, Considering V's tendencies and cards to come, what hands do you 3bet with for value? What hands do you 3bet for bluff/semi-bluff ?
  • Steve JonesSteve Jones Red Chipper Posts: 95 ✭✭
    Does his range on flop have JJ and QQ in it? I see nitty omcs show up here with QQ sometimes. Pretty sure villain was pot controlling on turn and will snap you off on river, so I would just give up here, we just dont have enough info. Give up and see what he has, use this info for future pots against him.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 317 ✭✭✭
    There is a math issue. Pot should be 206 going to turn.

    Not sure this one is worth fighting for. You’re trying to use reasoning vs the wrong player type. He didn’t build that stack by folding.

    He raised the flop, you called with odds, and nothing changed after that. You’re too deep to threaten his stack. If he’s been sleeping and suddenly wakes up to play this hand, I would just play it straightforwardly as possible.
  • Jordan PowerJordan Power Red Chipper Posts: 429 ✭✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    It's not a cbet.

    Because of how wide I think he's playing his limp/call range or because of the board itself? I figure I can rep more holdings that hit this board trying to just steal a limped pot in the BB even though in reality I only have T8 as hitting top pair. I can also rep an overpair that is now afraid of the flush draw. I'm not betting for worse hands to call here; I'm betting for V to fold here given that I am not going to have a made hand by the river more than half the time. Given this, I cbet the flop to generate some fold equity to give myself another way to win the pot. V had also not been past a flop in a while, so I thought there was a high percentage chance that I took it down on the flop.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No, but if i told you i'd have to kill you. You have your clue, happy new year.
  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 317 ✭✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    No, but if i told you i'd have to kill you. You have your clue, happy new year.

    LOL... very extra persuadeo-ish today! Thing is... I'm not sure if it means you've had a good day, or bad.

    Either way, I still enjoy the hell out of it!
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    True, someone in another corner the poker world is tilting the fuck out of me, but i passed the mental test and did not torch him. It's a new year for me too!

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