1/2 NL JJ river with 4 straight on board

U_TurnU_Turn Las VegasRed Chipper Posts: 37 ✭✭
I just recently started working through CORE to improve my game and this is the first hand history I'm posting. I'm still working on taking notes during a live game environment, so please forgive me if I miss anything. These will get better as I gain experience.

1/2 NLHE Live at Red Rock Casino
I've been in the game about an hour with about my initial buy-in of $300. Villain has around $200.

Villain has been very loose passive, seeing flops with at least 50% of hands. Any suited cards, any ace, any two broadway. He'll either limp or call raises with all of these. Post flop he'll lead with top pair or better and call with just about any other piece of it. I have not seen him raise anything either pre or post flop.

Hero is in HJ with :Jd :Jc and opens to $10, Villain calls from the button
Pot $23
Flop :5d :Th :8h
Hero bets $15, villain calls
Pot $53
Turn :7d
Hero bets $25, villain calls - I realize when reconstructing this hand from my notes that this bet is too small since villain will certainly call more.
Pot $103
River :Js
Hero ??


  • LoveFishLoveFish IllinoisRed Chipper Posts: 92 ✭✭
    1) raise to 15$ pre flop In 1/2 when entering an unraised pot.
    2) flop like this you have a very vulnerable Hand out of position I would probably bet pot, then 3/4 to pot on the turn.
    3) river you have 2 options in my opinion:
    A) you can check call. To strong of a hand to fold.
    B) throw in a 1/3 pot size bet and fold to when re raised. I wouldn’t worry about balancing in these spots at these stakes/live games.
  • NinjahNinjah Red Chipper Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    If I have a player who is playing 50% of hands, I'm going bigger preflop to iso him. I think you're running the risk of going multiway here with a small raise size and several players left to act. I'd prefer to see the hand play out similar to this once we go heads up in an attempt to play for stacks:

    Hero raise JJ $15, Villain calls

    Flop ($30) :5D: :TH: :8H: Hero bets $30, V calls.

    Turn ($90): :7D: Hero bets all in ($155). V???

    This card completes some 2 pair combos but there are still a lot of one pair and flush combos that V will show up with here so I'm not slowing down. We also block the nuts. V will sometimes have it here but will also have a lot of FD and pair+SD hands (T9, 89, 67, 97).

    I'm advocating this line against this particular Villain as an exploitative measure vs someone who doesn't like to fold. I would look for an alternate line against a better or different type of opponent. You could also consider a x/r if he will bet a lot when checked to.

    The line you chose to take puts us in an awful spot OOP on a lot of rivers with awkward stack sizes against a Villain that could have anything.
  • U_TurnU_Turn Las VegasRed Chipper Posts: 37 ✭✭
    Thanks for the input so far. I questioned this hand because I thought I missed value, and I clearly missed value on every street.

    Giving villain the very wide river calling range I believe he had, Equilab says I had 70% equity. A clear river value bet and against this villain I should be able to easily fold if he raises.

    I checked, he checked, he showed QTo and I won a smaller pot than I should have.
  • RCP Coach - Fausto ValdezRCP Coach - Fausto Valdez RCP Coach Posts: 835 ✭✭✭✭
    @U_Turn when arriving on the river, it becomes a question of what's available in his range that beats you vs the hands that you beat

    vs most agg players you might be forced to turn this into a check call or check fold

    since this player is loose passive you could start going for that value knowing that most of his raises will be nutted since he is largely passive. There should be enough Tx to target for value as the obvious one and then of course he could still have two pair and sets that you now beat so all is good.

    as a side note, you should not be liberally be betting that turn card with most of your range, when deeper run outs are going to own you

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