4x Pot All-in In 3-Bet Pot

RoblivionRoblivion WisconsinRed Chipper Posts: 288 ✭✭✭
First hand at a 2/5 table.

Hero opens to 25 UTG. V raises to 60 in MP. Hero calls.

Flop (120) :4s :4c :2c
Hero checks. V shoves for 450.

Completely readless, what hands are you calling/folding?

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  • In The DarkIn The Dark Red Chipper Posts: 210 ✭✭
    In my universe, a near min raise PF is AA or maybe KK but mostly AA as it was last night (And I folded PF and he showed).

    The flop shove makes me even more worried he's a donkey that hates to get his AA cracked.

    ...so, you need a 4 here.
  • pokerdj4pokerdj4 NYRed Chipper Posts: 26 ✭✭
    If you call with QQ+ instead of 4 betting them pre this is probably the only range you could comfortably call the flop shove with hoping he is shoving medium pocket pairs and flush draws with AK or AQ. But I don't think most live players are shoving draws like this nor 88-JJ.
  • RedRed Red Chipper Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2018
    I'm calling only with 22 here (and the only 44 combo)

    Not calling other combos because it's a clear "don't pay them off" situatin:
    - Hero doesn't have KK+ (are 4bet pre)
    - Hero's lower PP are behind and drawing on 2 outs.
    - Hero doesn't have the right odds to call with a FD or even Ac3c hoping A is alive.
    - Hero shall not have 4x combo here (because open UTG and call a 3bet OOP). Incl. A4s combos, which are either fold or 4bet bluff. If H plays loose and has 54s, 43s or 64s in his range - which I don't advocate as 1st hand and UTG - then trips is a call.

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