AJs and I'm not happy to pair up

TooncesTDCTooncesTDC Red Chipper Posts: 34 ✭✭
edited December 2018 in Tournament Poker Hands
Round 3 of the local casino's "big" monthly MTT. $230 buy-in, 30 minute rounds. 200-100-200 blinds with a 12000 starting stack and I have about 14000. Villian has about 18000.

I get AhJh in the CO. UTG+1 calls. UTG+3 calls. LJ bets 600. I cold-call. BB and limpers call.

(I think AhJh plays better multi-way here with position, and I don't want to be 4-bet. For the record, I didn't catch the blind increase at the time, so I didn't catch that 600 is only 3x here with limpers, not 6x)

3300 pot. Flop is Kd Th 6c.

It's is checked to villian, who is a personable, fairly loose but not super-aggressive old guy. Maybe he's a 35-40 VPIP with 15% open-raise, but not a serial limper. He quips, "I don't know what to do", then bets 2000. With a gutshot nut straight and a backdoor nut flush and the overcard ace, I think I have enough here to float once, even though it's dangerous that someone might come over the top and I might have to fold a big raise. My plan is to bluff a heart turn, fold a card that doesn't improve. I'm not sure what I do if villian checks the turn on a blank, but I think the best move is to check behind. I call and everyone else folds.

7300 pot. Turn comes a Js. Old guy immediately bets 3000. Even though I paired my jack, I don't like the result. my gutshot becomes a 1-card to the ace, no flush draw, the Jack is an underpair to the ace and there are a ton of high cards out there that hit his range hard. That combined with his mannerisms, despite his 40% turn bet, makes me think I need to fold here, and I do.
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  • CASEY MCASEY M Red Chipper Posts: 136 ✭✭
    Against a loose range I prefer raising pre with this holding. Flatting and playing way has merit but the vast majority of the time we are going to make a medium strength hand with a loose opponent in the drivers seat. Of course if we flop a lot of equity we can take the wheel but why not get ahead of it and 3bet?

    I think if we're going to call the flop bet we need to have a plan for non :spade turns and when we miss the Q.
  • Michael EMichael E Red Chipper Posts: 122 ✭✭
    Take the initiative on the flop too. Raise to 4500/5000. You are drawing to the nut straight and bd nut flush.
    You are blocking AK and KJ.

    As played, I'm calling one more street..but not happy about it. You don't have to be right that often and the bet is small.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 2,070 -
    Michael E wrote: »
    Take the initiative on the flop too. Raise to 4500/5000. You are drawing to the nut straight and bd nut flush.
    You are blocking AK and KJ.

    As played, I'm calling one more street..but not happy about it. You don't have to be right that often and the bet is small.

    These kinds of lines are fine in a cash game > 100bb deep, but I really need a good reason to get this creative in a tournament. That raise commits more than 1/3 of our stack, and players in tournaments of this buy-in are notoriously sticky.
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  • Michael EMichael E Red Chipper Posts: 122 ✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    Michael E wrote: »
    Take the initiative on the flop too. Raise to 4500/5000. You are drawing to the nut straight and bd nut flush.
    You are blocking AK and KJ.

    As played, I'm calling one more street..but not happy about it. You don't have to be right that often and the bet is small.

    These kinds of lines are fine in a cash game > 100bb deep, but I really need a good reason to get this creative in a tournament. That raise commits more than 1/3 of our stack, and players in tournaments of this buy-in are notoriously sticky.

    I think you're right..we are right on that line of being too risky with our stack depth. But...at the same time when people see you make a "committing" raise at this depth it does get some more respect. They lose fold equity (appear to) and many players don't like calling down and being wrong.

    I actually find it better in a tournament because people value their tournament lives more...whereas in cash they just call and rebuy.

    This all depends as always on the player pool too....

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