How much have you won/lost?

hopeless_fish dhopeless_fish d Red Chipper Posts: 59 ✭✭
edited February 20 in General Concepts
My total profit is around 200$ now, almost all from freerolls and bonuses (might even be in the red before that).

How well has you done online?

Live?
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  • Mr. DontMr. Dont Red Chipper Posts: 370 ✭✭✭
    Ive keep track of live play records, but find out Im too obsessed with it. Im under pressure when Im loosing or my win rate is low. Im still keep it after evry session, but trying to less concern about it.
  • MichaelBMichaelB Red Chipper Posts: 139 ✭✭
    Well, I don't like to brag (actually, I don't mind it), but my tracked win rate live is 12BB/h going back about 8 years. Wins are in the 6 figures.
  • kenaceskenaces Red Chipper Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭✭
    enough for today since I am lurking around RCP forums :)

    not enough to retire - YET
  • U_TurnU_Turn Las VegasRed Chipper Posts: 25 ✭✭
    This is all 1/2 live. I started tracking when I started CORE 6ish weeks ago.

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  • Brews_and_CardsBrews_and_Cards Red Chipper Posts: 101 ✭✭
    Essentially break-even in 5NL and 10NL 6max cash online this year. Was down initially and have rallied to get back in the black the last couple of weeks.

    7k hands in 52.5 hours. 53% winning sessions. 5.5 BB/100

    16 MTTs entered. 8 cashes. $1500 profit on the year.

    I finished up $270ish last year in 6max cash, but my play was sporadic and I don't put much stock in that number. This year has been much more consistent with regular study and 20+ hours of play each week.
  • hopeless_fish dhopeless_fish d Red Chipper Posts: 59 ✭✭
    So far nobody has atmitted to being a losing player, maybe these individuals are not on this forum or maybe they are simply not replying since most people do not want to admit being losers.

    I am pretty sure most people trying to make money from poker (non-recs) are in fact losing players.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 1,757 -
    So far nobody has atmitted to being a losing player, maybe these individuals are not on this forum or maybe they are simply not replying since most people do not want to admit being losers.

    I am pretty sure most people trying to make money from poker (non-recs) are in fact losing players.

    The nature of the game means most people lose, and one would assume most people are trying to make money. But it's sort of like trying to lose weight without changing diet or exercise patterns.
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  • MichaelBMichaelB Red Chipper Posts: 139 ✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    So far nobody has atmitted to being a losing player, maybe these individuals are not on this forum or maybe they are simply not replying since most people do not want to admit being losers.

    I am pretty sure most people trying to make money from poker (non-recs) are in fact losing players.

    The nature of the game means most people lose, and one would assume most people are trying to make money. But it's sort of like trying to lose weight without changing diet or exercise patterns.

    It's a strange thing to watch, night after night, the same folks making the same mistakes, with seemingly little will to change.

    The single biggest mistake I've noticed among my 'poker friends' over the years is they don't have a dedicated roll, so when they go on a 6+ buy-in downswing it knocks them off the horse. They can't handle losing $3-$5k over a number of sessions at the tables when they only make $1k a week in their job, which is totally understandable. But it means, even if they know how to play and might break even or win in the long run, they wind up checking out and becoming just another losing player.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 1,757 -
    MichaelB wrote: »
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    So far nobody has atmitted to being a losing player, maybe these individuals are not on this forum or maybe they are simply not replying since most people do not want to admit being losers.

    I am pretty sure most people trying to make money from poker (non-recs) are in fact losing players.

    The nature of the game means most people lose, and one would assume most people are trying to make money. But it's sort of like trying to lose weight without changing diet or exercise patterns.

    It's a strange thing to watch, night after night, the same folks making the same mistakes, with seemingly little will to change.

    The single biggest mistake I've noticed among my 'poker friends' over the years is they don't have a dedicated roll, so when they go on a 6+ buy-in downswing it knocks them off the horse. They can't handle losing $3-$5k over a number of sessions at the tables when they only make $1k a week in their job, which is totally understandable. But it means, even if they know how to play and might break even or win in the long run, they wind up checking out and becoming just another losing player.

    This is one reason that I take a contrarian view to nearly everybody and feel online poker has been a bad thing.
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  • hopeless_fish dhopeless_fish d Red Chipper Posts: 59 ✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    The nature of the game means most people lose, and one would assume most people are trying to make money. But it's sort of like trying to lose weight without changing diet or exercise patterns.
    If you just want to gamble there are far better options.

    Pure fishes are rare and they guy you think is a fish might actually be the only winning player at the table while you keep playing losing poker thinking it's a winning strategy.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 1,757 -
    Tournament winnings are interesting in this regard, as presented on places like Hendon Mob and CP. I could legitimately claim to have "more than 1/2 million US$ in lifetime winnings," but despite this number being accurate it is completely meaningless.
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  • AnthonyBaum____AnthonyBaum____ Red Chipper Posts: 14 ✭✭
    Since July of 18
    +148 at home games
    +73 from casino (1/3 NL and 4/8 PLO8)
    -270 from WSOP circuit
    -170 online
    I tracked the biggest cold streak of my life during this time, i went 13 sessions without a positive cash, this was 10 home games, 3 casino trips. I cashed at a home game and a trip to the casino playing 1/3 NL, then I followed up with a negative in the WSOP circuit this past month, it's been rough.
  • hopeless_fish dhopeless_fish d Red Chipper Posts: 59 ✭✭
    Since July of 18
    +148 at home games
    +73 from casino (1/3 NL and 4/8 PLO8)
    -270 from WSOP circuit
    -170 online
    I tracked the biggest cold streak of my life during this time, i went 13 sessions without a positive cash, this was 10 home games, 3 casino trips. I cashed at a home game and a trip to the casino playing 1/3 NL, then I followed up with a negative in the WSOP circuit this past month, it's been rough.

    That sums up to -219$, not a disaster loss so you should be able to recover.

  • AnthonyBaum____AnthonyBaum____ Red Chipper Posts: 14 ✭✭
    Since July of 18
    +148 at home games
    +73 from casino (1/3 NL and 4/8 PLO8)
    -270 from WSOP circuit
    -170 online
    I tracked the biggest cold streak of my life during this time, i went 13 sessions without a positive cash, this was 10 home games, 3 casino trips. I cashed at a home game and a trip to the casino playing 1/3 NL, then I followed up with a negative in the WSOP circuit this past month, it's been rough.

    That sums up to -219$, not a disaster loss so you should be able to recover.

    I agree, nothing I can't get out of, but, nobody was willing to post a loss. I plan to continue to track, now that the frozen wave is over, I am excited to see how it looks in another 6 months.
  • BigFarmBigFarm MontrealRed Chipper Posts: 41 ✭✭
    +$1,524 over 274 hours since late 2017. I'm just a fun player just trying to have a hobby that is both entertaining and might one day pay for a vacation.

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  • BigFarmBigFarm MontrealRed Chipper Posts: 41 ✭✭
    I also posted the chart so you can see how meaningless it is over this sample size... At this point it's hard to say if I'm a winning or losing player with all that fluctuation.
  • BigFarmBigFarm MontrealRed Chipper Posts: 41 ✭✭
    It's pretty much all 1/2 NLH.
  • MichaelBMichaelB Red Chipper Posts: 139 ✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    So far nobody has atmitted to being a losing player, maybe these individuals are not on this forum or maybe they are simply not replying since most people do not want to admit being losers.

    I am pretty sure most people trying to make money from poker (non-recs) are in fact losing players.

    The nature of the game means most people lose, and one would assume most people are trying to make money. But it's sort of like trying to lose weight without changing diet or exercise patterns.

    Depending on what night I'm playing (weekdays or weekends) I get a mix of people who are clearly trying to win, those who just enjoy the game and hope to win, and a much smaller percentage of casino gamblers who mosey on down to the poker room to relax a little and have fun.

    I don't think a single one of the latter groups are winners, but I do wonder what % of the first group are actually winners. I've heard people say 5-10%, but I don't know what source they're getting that from.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 1,757 -
    I've quoted 10% at $1/2. Source: poker room manager. It's probably less brutal at $2/5 because the rake is less punishing.
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  • MichaelBMichaelB Red Chipper Posts: 139 ✭✭
    edited February 22
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I've quoted 10% at $1/2. Source: poker room manager. It's probably less brutal at $2/5 because the rake is less punishing.

    I'm rebuilding my roll to get back into 2/5 +. The rake in the $1/3 game is insane (10% up to $15) + $5 seating charge. Lot's of people argue it's unbeatable, but I have the receipts to say that it is. This might have a snowball effect that even less potentially winning players play this level, because they don't want to hand away so much of their win rate to the house. I do know a lot of regulars take the game very seriously though and say they supplement their incomes with it. Less than 10% sounds about right.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 1,757 -
    MichaelB wrote: »
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I've quoted 10% at $1/2. Source: poker room manager. It's probably less brutal at $2/5 because the rake is less punishing.

    I'm rebuilding my roll to get back into 2/5 +. The rake in the $1/3 game is insane (10% up to $15) + $5 seating charge. Lot's of people argue it's unbeatable, but I have the receipts to say that it is. This might have a snowball effect that even less potentially winning players play this level, because they don't want to hand away so much of their win rate to the house. I do know a lot of regulars take the game very seriously though and say they supplement their incomes with it. Less than 10% sounds about right.

    Good grief, that's brutal.
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  • LeChiffreLeChiffre NetherlandsRed Chipper Posts: 417 ✭✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I've quoted 10% at $1/2. Source: poker room manager. It's probably less brutal at $2/5 because the rake is less punishing.

    How does the poker room manager know how many players are winning?
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 1,757 -
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I've quoted 10% at $1/2. Source: poker room manager. It's probably less brutal at $2/5 because the rake is less punishing.

    How does the poker room manager know how many players are winning?

    It's one of the attentive ones. Chips bought and chips cashed out give a pretty good indicator.
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  • blindraiseblindraise Red Chipper Posts: 115 ✭✭
    MichaelB wrote: »
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I've quoted 10% at $1/2. Source: poker room manager. It's probably less brutal at $2/5 because the rake is less punishing.

    I'm rebuilding my roll to get back into 2/5 +. The rake in the $1/3 game is insane (10% up to $15) + $5 seating charge. Lot's of people argue it's unbeatable, but I have the receipts to say that it is. This might have a snowball effect that even less potentially winning players play this level, because they don't want to hand away so much of their win rate to the house. I do know a lot of regulars take the game very seriously though and say they supplement their incomes with it. Less than 10% sounds about right.

    Yall need to boycott those 1/3 tables
  • MichaelBMichaelB Red Chipper Posts: 139 ✭✭
    @blindraise yeah, unfortunately that's never going to happen. What we really need is another casino or even just a poker room in the city, but Crown is so big they'd never let happen, and I don't even know if a poker room would be a money spinner.

    It's not even just the 1/3 tables either, the 2/5 have the same structure, but given how much bigger the game plays it's less of an impact on your hourly.

    Unless you know someone who can get you in to a home game, this casino is the only option for a game.
  • jfarrow13jfarrow13 Red Chipper Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭
    Dunno, I deleted the tracker app I had, but notable live $ uses were: buying my used car, paying for school, and paying for golf/burning it on nights out.
    Online: Deposited $100 last September, was up to 1.2k from a couple tourney wins, gave a ton of it back playing bigger games/tourneys/sports betting, got down to like $300, decided to settle down and go back to grinding .05/10 6-max zoom cash, up to like $570 now playing like 1-2 hours a evening if I feel like it.

    Goal: shot take .1/.25 at $750, cash out $500 and 1k and do something fun with it, try to get back to 1k again and stay playing .1/.25, MAYBE .25/.5, but I feel like that's where the games start to get pretty tough.
  • MichaelBMichaelB Red Chipper Posts: 139 ✭✭
    If you're able, take some of that cash and have a run at live poker. I've run up buy-ins as little as $150 to $5k and above (over several sessions of course) before cashing out. Point is, if you can win online, you can crush live with the right adjustments.
  • CactusCardsCactusCards ArizonaRed Chipper Posts: 90 ✭✭
    I'll be one of the few losers posting here. in 2019, keeping track, I'm down around $800 so far. Granted this is a small sample size and includes busting out of a $400 tourney.

    2019 is a weird place for me poker-wise. The wife and I took my 2018 bankroll and went to Europe for 2 weeks (married/merged money). Don't regret it a bit, but now I need to re-grind a roll that I can be comfortable with.

    Basically doing that with 2-300 spread here in AZ with a 4 day trip to Vegas planned around March Madness. My goal is to get my roll back up to ~$5000 by June for a week out at WSOP (Just big 50 event, daily deep stacks, and 1-2)

    GL to everyone else with the 2019 grind
  • The_Juic3The_Juic3 Red Chipper Posts: 29 ✭✭
    So far nobody has atmitted to being a losing player, maybe these individuals are not on this forum or maybe they are simply not replying since most people do not want to admit being losers.

    I am pretty sure most people trying to make money from poker (non-recs) are in fact losing players.

    Im down 12 bucks at 2/5 cent online this year over 1,100ish hands and down 71 bucks live this year (with 87 spent on food/drinks/tips) over 10 hours and 52 minutes at 1/2.



  • RoblivionRoblivion WisconsinRed Chipper Posts: 265 ✭✭✭
    Up 5,858 since April of 2016. Unfortunately, I enjoy tournaments, but rarely play them and am not good at them, so I'm down about $3,400 on them during that time period (mostly from last month when the WSOP-C was in town and I went 0 for.)

    @CactusCards I feel your 2019 pain. I'm down about $4,400 on the year so far. No more 2/5 shot taking for the moment.
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