cooler??? could it be played differently??? i thought a lot but couldnt avoid this spot today.

Onix1708Onix1708 Pune, IndiaRed Chipper Posts: 99 ✭✭
mostly Loose passive game pre.
Stakes 5/10 (Indian rupees)
5 handed
stacks:
MP 511
CO 1175
BTN 1186
SB (Hero) 520
BB (V) 710
Action Preflop:
Hero has :QS: :JS: on sb
mp raises 30
co calls 30
btn calls 30
sb calls 25
bb calls 20

Flop :7S: :8S: :4S:
pot 150
Hero checks
V Checks
MP checks
Co Checks
Btn Checks

turn :JD:
pot 150
Hero bets 99
V calls 99
rest fold

river :7D:
pot 348
Hero bets 230
V Jams 581
Hero calls 161

Villian Shows :AS: :2S:
Villain wins 1320

Is this standard cooler??? Could it be avoided??? should bet sizing be any different???
i could not think of a way to avoid stacking off here.



Comments

  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 2,021 -
    At that SPR you're destined to get stacked; the only question is precisely how.
    Moderation In Moderation
  • Onix1708Onix1708 Pune, IndiaRed Chipper Posts: 99 ✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    At that SPR you're destined to get stacked; the only question is precisely how.

    So does that make it a fold pre??? or should i buy in higher??
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 2,021 -
    I think with three in ahead of you and the likelihood the BB comes along a preflop call is fine. How deep you buy-in for depends on your overall strategy and shouldn't be based on the outcome of this hand.
    Moderation In Moderation
  • Onix1708Onix1708 Pune, IndiaRed Chipper Posts: 99 ✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I think with three in ahead of you and the likelihood the BB comes along a preflop call is fine. How deep you buy-in for depends on your overall strategy and shouldn't be based on the outcome of this hand.

    I generally tend to buy in 50 bb deep in such games as avg stack is around that.
    also i get double up soon enough to get to 100 bb game. if there are 100 bb+ stacks, i buy in for 100 bb.
  • Onix1708Onix1708 Pune, IndiaRed Chipper Posts: 99 ✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I think with three in ahead of you and the likelihood the BB comes along a preflop call is fine. How deep you buy-in for depends on your overall strategy and shouldn't be based on the outcome of this hand.

    my thought process with call was such:
    OJs has good multi way potential. 3 bet may not fold out as game is loose. if called on 3 bet, QJ is difficult to play OOP.
  • LagtardLagtard Red Chipper Posts: 93 ✭✭
    edited March 22
    Only the best NLHE players can get away from that but at that stack and pot size I can’t imagine when it’s not a stack off.

    I was in a similar situation with JThh in the BB. I can proudly say I got away from it and villain showed A9hh.

    It was different because it was a tourney and after the rebuy period ended and the player showed no real bluff tendencies. Also stacks were deeper. He had to of had a better hand. He wasn’t calling my bets with a bluff (for the record I wasn’t checking back, I was betting in to him with a worse hand). When he reraises the turn I let it go. So glad he showed because I would of always wondered if I made the right lay down.

    In that situations stacks were deeper. I had that flexibility. I wasn’t committed.

    Unless I’m only seeing your losing hands in the hand history or you are having a really bad run. I would play deeper and make exploitative folds when it’s called for. 50bbs deep you are committed in most of these situations. I’d rethink that strategy. If you have a bad run 100bbs deep you can justify folds in some of these spots. You’re still not winning but you aren’t losing stacks because you are SPR committed.
  • Onix1708Onix1708 Pune, IndiaRed Chipper Posts: 99 ✭✭
    thank you for insight @Lagtard

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