3 Bet Bluffing with A2s

gl523gl523 Red Chipper Posts: 101 ✭✭
$.02/.04 Online 5 Players
Effective Stack Size: $4.05

Hero is on BB with :AH::2H: .
HJ limps. BU raises to $.20. Hero reraises to $.62. HJ calls. BU calls.

Pot: $1.88
Flop: :QC::4C::6C:
Hero checks. HJ checks. BU checks.

Pot: 1.88
Turn: :KC:
Hero checks. HJ bets $1.00. BU folds. Hero folds.

So it is a good idea to 3 bet bluff when someone is trying to isolate a player? I chose to 3 bet bluff due to having the ace as a blocker plus having straight and flush playability if someone calls. However, I don't know if the fact that BU was isoing rather than open raising would change whether or not a 3 bet bluff is good to implement. I think I should have at least made the bet size a little smaller since I was bluffing and few people at these stakes would notice the size decrease. I chose not to bluff further due to the fact that it was a multiway pot.
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  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2019
    Range=price

    It's not that you shouldn't raise this but if you are going to lay prices that encourage calls, the composition of your entire range in this spot will need to be more value oriented. This could therefore be a fine reiso or not, depending on total hand selection.
  • derdonkerderdonker San Jose, CA USARed Chipper Posts: 124 ✭✭
    edited April 2019
    preflop, i think it's too early to use sd and fd possibilities as a reason to bluff ... you don't even have a sd or fd yet. since only 2 players to iso, i'd save the chips and pass on that. i can see pf call then lead boards like the one you got as a bluff. i can also see a pf raise, to take a stand against an over aggressive blind-stealing btn, but perhaps when you have a better hand and/or hu with this btn.

    flop and turn, you could cbet as a bluff. seems like everyone gave up, and after two streets of checking, btn decided to take the pot with or without a high club.
  • obliviusoblivius San FranciscoRed Chipper Posts: 108 ✭✭
    The player specific thing is a great point. Do you use a HUD? I'll assume not since we don't have any stats. One thing that jumped out at me is that the BU raise is 5x...Without history or stats I'd probably muck pre.
  • GTOLife2020GTOLife2020 Hudson Valley, NYRed Chipper Posts: 875 ✭✭✭
    Yeah, this is way too loose pre.
  • Jordan PowerJordan Power Red Chipper Posts: 530 ✭✭✭
    Joseph F wrote: »
    Yeah, this is way too loose pre.

    Disagree. I think suited wheel aces are a good candidate for a 3 bet bluff, especially vs a button raise. Only thing I dislike is the price, I would add at least 1x more vs the button raise since we are playing OOP and don't really want a call.
  • DeadliftsDeadlifts Red Chipper Posts: 127 ✭✭
    It's more simple than it's made out to be right now, polarized ranges almost always have the standard A2s-A5s range for 3bet bluffs, something we all learned within the first few months of studying the game. So the question isn't "Is A2s-A5s, a bad range to 3b bluff with preflop"...the question is, what type of player are we choosing this line against, and will it be profitable..
  • GTOLife2020GTOLife2020 Hudson Valley, NYRed Chipper Posts: 875 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2019
    You guys are unbelievably loose for online. They'd all tell you to "fold pre" on these on RIO. Nobody learned "within the first few months of studying the game" to be overly loose and aggressive and standard 3b with A2s. Bluff? it's 4nl and preflop lol. Some of you definitely play on Global b/c that's the only site they spew like that on.
  • DeadliftsDeadlifts Red Chipper Posts: 127 ✭✭
    Joseph F wrote: »
    You guys are unbelievably loose for online. They'd all tell you to "fold pre" on these on RIO. Nobody learned "within the first few months of studying the game" to be overly loose and aggressive and standard 3b with A2s. Bluff? it's 4nl and preflop lol. Some of you definitely play on Global b/c that's the only site they spew like that on.

    LOL, ok bud, whatever you say.

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