How do you all deal with being abnormally card dead?

MichaelBMichaelB Red Chipper Posts: 211 ✭✭✭
Had a five hour session on Friday where I was card dead to a degree I don't rightly remember happening before. I probably voluntarily entered less than 5% of pots. I'm talking almost nothing, constant unplayable garbage, hitting nothing, almost no spots to bluff and the ones that did appear, I didn't get them through, raked in two small pots the whole night.

Do you just get up or stick it out? Do you change tables if you can? I can't imagine my image was helping me any. I ended up dropping 2 buyins due to sheer attrition.

Is stubbornly sticking it out a kind of tilt? I have the feeling I should have just left two hours in rather than just folding 93o for another 3 hours.

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  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • RedRed Red Chipper Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭✭
    When you play a ~15% range (all position together), this also means you're not going to play 85% of the time.
    At average this is 3-4 hands / hours. At average. Being card dead, this means playing 1 hand / hour.

    But also, you might also fold in spots where a raise could be welcome.

    All together: welcome to poker, feel the pain, embrace the pain.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre NetherlandsRed Chipper Posts: 458 ✭✭✭
    What do you do when you are on an incredible hot run?
  • Doug HullDoug Hull RCP Coach Posts: 1,740 -
    The cards have no memory. Your strategy should not change based on not having played a hand in a while. At most, observant opponents might change their mental model of you, but I have not played an observant opponent before so that is all theoretical...
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  • NYCRyNYCRy Red Chipper Posts: 336 ✭✭✭
    I had an 8 hour card dead session once. I treated it as a challenge and was kind of laughing at how ridiculous it was by the end. I think I maybe played like two hands I shouldn't have. This is one of the reasons I think its good to have at least some of a mix between live and online play. Can't really be card dead playing 4 tables online
  • In The DarkIn The Dark Red Chipper Posts: 200 ✭✭
    In games with marginally observant opponents you can monetize your super tight image for a hand or two. Just 3! on the B or CO. Do it. Maybe don't even look, just pretend to look , so you're not dissuaded from trying it. Pick a PFR that isn't a stationy donk and good things will follow. It's very satisfying to stack a pot where you never saw your hand.

  • EgochEgoch Red Chipper Posts: 2 ✭✭
    I think I kind of like being card dead. It gives me the feeling I am playing perfectly since I effortlessly find the best course of action again and again: folding.
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't like being card dead, but it does make it easy to play perfectly, I agree with that :)

    There was a pretty bad poker book I read one time calling Dominating Holdem or something like that. For the author's strategy to work, you had to be getting dealt strong cards. For those times you weren't, he said you couldn't intimidate anyone and therefore you should just go home and try again another time.
  • YoshYosh Red Chipper Posts: 579 ✭✭✭
    Ask for a deck wash. Works every time.
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well I prefer a new setup, as it takes quite awhile longer.
  • MichaelBMichaelB Red Chipper Posts: 211 ✭✭✭
    Cheers all. Yeah, Been playing for over ten years, but I can not really remember too many similar sessions. I used the time to watch the other players more than I would, and after the third attempt to use my tight image to put in a cheeky 3bet failed, I just reminded myself to remain cognisant of whether I was actually finding good spots or just trying to alleviate boredom.

    I guess I was just asking if anyone has any mental game tips or suggestions to get through these unusual periods.
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    - never complain about your lack of cards. It's tacky and no one wants to hear it. If someone mentions it to me, I'll laugh and agree. It also sometimes comes across like you're a tight nit who says that all the time to convince people otherwise.
    - engage in friendly conversation with other people at the table worth talking to.
    - keep paying attention out of the corner of your eye.
    - obviously there's stuff on your phone you can do when you're not going to miss any important action.
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 29
    I saw a T shirt "No one cares what you folded". I could add others for "No one cares about your bad beat" and "No one cares how card dead you are".
  • NYCRyNYCRy Red Chipper Posts: 336 ✭✭✭
    Whenever I'm tempted to loosen up if I haven't played a hand in a while I remind myself that I can't change the cards in THEIR hands. If I've folded 30 straight hands and then raise in MP the button isn't folding a pair or AK or whatever. 3betting light probably makes more sense in these situations but its still the same concept
  • In The DarkIn The Dark Red Chipper Posts: 200 ✭✭
    jeffnc wrote: »
    I saw a T shirt "No one cares what you folded". I could add others for "No one cares about your bad beat" and "No one cares how card dead you are".

    ~T.J. Clouthier: Don't tell folks how bad you're running. 9 out of ten don't care and one wishes you were losing more.

  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    one wishes you were losing more.

    Yeah good point.

  • Fernando OFernando O Red Chipper Posts: 77 ✭✭
    Do what baseball players do when they run bad - go Hoggin. Another choice is to throw a pity party, everyone loves to hear bad beat stories from those lucky enough to have time and money to sit in a poker game.

    F
  • 3acesonboard3acesonboard Red Chipper Posts: 5 ✭✭
    I like to table change when I’m card dead for awhile or casino change. It gives me a new set of players to figure out if I stay card dead.
  • Michael EMichael E Red Chipper Posts: 121 ✭✭
    Anyone think..."I'm so card dead, I could raise any two and everyone will fold?"
    Then you get that marginal hand...raise...and get 5 callers??

    One thing I have done...just to get used to playing ranges instead of my card...is blind raise OTB in the right spot. (All Limpers, unraised pot, etc.) .
    I play the hand with my button range. It is more of an exercise than anything.

    Better chance to get through vs. Limpers and with a tight image (card dead)
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3
    Michael E wrote: »
    Anyone think..."I'm so card dead, I could raise any two and everyone will fold?"
    Then you get that marginal hand...raise...and get 5 callers??

    I have learned that lesson so many times - I now go through longer and longer of stretches of being card dead before I try it, and then promptly kick myself under the table, again :)

  • blindraiseblindraise Red Chipper Posts: 154 ✭✭
    I dont know whats worse- being card dead or cardracking while running bad
  • Warrington_1Warrington_1 Red Chipper Posts: 27 ✭✭
    I break out my notebook and study my opponents. Try to calculate ranges even when your not in hands and take not of lines that make little to no sense. It always amuses me when Iam the only one that seems to care that a rock just got caught playing 96o. Its the best way to see when someone has been card dead and finally decided they want to play some hands.
  • MichaelBMichaelB Red Chipper Posts: 211 ✭✭✭
    blindraise wrote: »
    I dont know whats worse- being card dead or cardracking while running bad

    I'll take being card dead, running bad when you're hitting like a mofo makes it so hard to play well.
  • CactusCardsCactusCards ArizonaRed Chipper Posts: 106 ✭✭
    jeffnc wrote: »
    Michael E wrote: »
    Anyone think..."I'm so card dead, I could raise any two and everyone will fold?"
    Then you get that marginal hand...raise...and get 5 callers??

    I have learned that lesson so many times - I now go through longer and longer of stretches of being card dead before I try it, and then promptly kick myself under the table, again :)

    @jeffnc I think it’s a masochism thing since I do that (and react the exact same way) every. Damn. Time. Lol

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