Am I Playing With My Cards Face Up?

John_BlancoJohn_Blanco Red Chipper Posts: 18 ✭✭
Hi,I have a small experiment for you guys.

Group 1: Hands 1,2 and 3 are the same hole cards.
Group2: Hands 4,5 and 6 are different group of hands sharing the same hole cards.
(Disclaimer:Despite being the same hole cards,they could be in different suits!for example,TT could be TcTd or TsTc..)

When there is a streaming of a final table or a cash game session or whatever,some people criticizes bad plays and then there is the typical response to that criticism, saying that everybody is a pro when we know the hole cards of the people involved in a hand.

Anyway,I want to see what can you deduce from this ..

I accept any kind of response, from:
- "I guess you have XcYc because this and that in hand_, and then because this in hand_ make me think this way."
- "Hand_, as played, screams middle pair on the turn afraid of being outdrawn.

to:

- "If in hand_ you have XzYz ,I would fold on this street,since V range is capped because this flop smashes his range and his bet size blah blah"
- "I don't know but this is interesting,post results!"
- "Is impossible to deduce what your hole cards/hand at showdown is without stats,specially in NL2 where ranges are crazy wide and the lines taken are full of fishy nonsense"


Rather than put you in a tough guessing game,I just want to see how is your thought proccess in general.

I am not including HUD stats because A) Is not a big enough sample size to have a real read on Villains,and B) because personally,I want to play anytime soon (when BR allows) most of my volume live rather than online,therefore I don't want my overall strategy be based on HUD stats.

Anyways,I will post Hand results and V's Holdings on Sunday.And I will post Monday or Tuesday what the hole cards are in Group 1 and what they are in Group 2!





HAND 1

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 126.5 BB
Hero (CO): 181 BB
BTN: 113 BB
SB: 114.5 BB
BB: 96.5 BB
UTG: 127.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has ?? ??

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) :Kd:3d:2c
BB bets 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn: (15.5 BB, 3 players) :5D:
BB bets 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

River: (21.5 BB, 3 players) :TH:
BB bets 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB


HAND 2

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 238 BB
UTG: 127 BB
CO: 120.5 BB
Hero (BTN): 110.5 BB
SB: 138.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has ?? ??

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) :KS::JD::2C:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 6.5 BB, BB calls 6.5 BB, UTG calls 6.5 BB

Turn: (29 BB, 3 players) :3D:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (29 BB, 3 players) :2D:
BB checks, UTG bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB, fold


HAND 3

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 143.5 BB
CO: 74 BB
BTN: 101 BB
SB: 87.5 BB
BB: 100 BB
Hero (UTG): 95.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has ?? ??

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) :8C::TD::AH:
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: (7.5 BB, 2 players) :7D:
Hero bets 5 BB, MP calls 5 BB

River: (17.5 BB, 2 players) :2S:
Hero checks, MP checks





HAND 4

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 100 BB
UTG: 83 BB
Hero (MP): 145 BB
CO: 114 BB
BTN: 163.5 BB
SB: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has ?? ??

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) :TC::AD::9D:
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn: (13.5 BB, 2 players) :JC:
Hero checks, BTN bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

River: (25.5 BB, 2 players) :AH:
Hero checks, BTN bets 12 BB, Hero raises to 134 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 122 BB



HAND 5

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 205 BB
CO: 109.5 BB
BTN: 97.5 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 161 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has ?? ??

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, UTG raises to 21 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Flop: (42.5 BB, 2 players) :2H::KD::8D:
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: (42.5 BB, 2 players) :8C:
Hero checks, UTG bets 13.5 BB, Hero calls 13.5 BB

River: (69.5 BB, 2 players) :9S:
Hero checks, UTG checks


HAND 6

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99.5 BB
SB: 31.5 BB
BB: 169 BB
UTG: 120 BB
Hero (MP): 155.5 BB
CO: 95.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has ?? ??

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) :5H::TD::9C:
BB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) :8H:
BB bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

River: (14.5 BB, 2 players) :7S:
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 7.5 BB, BB calls 6.5 BB

Comments

  • RedRed Red Chipper Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭✭
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    More seriously: your post is too long and include too many hands (too many = more than 1).
    Stay focus on one hand / one question, otherwise it's just neither interesting nor possible to give a proper reply. And it will also be harder for you to get any relevant feedback to improve your play (it will more look like a sum of comments more than the conclusion of a discussed issue).

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