Are u ever folding this on the river?

xyzxyz Red Chipper Posts: 22 ✭✭
edited July 28 in Online Poker Hands
Microstakes MTT,middle stage,not near bubble.

Now that i rewatch this hand I see the first mistake was my preflop sizing maybe i should go 2.2 or 2.5 but would it change anything? Anyway on his flop action I put him on any AX or possibly A5 but also flushdraw.I had not much info on this player but I know this can be a line on cashgame from regs but did not really expect someone to pull this line off in the tournament,but there was a chance for it.anyway....once he call my turn bet I m pretty sure I m behind and now i m hoping he checks the river which he does not.Possibly I made mistake on every single street and I would like to hear your in depth oppinion on this hand still could you fold this on river ?

NL Holdem $800(BB)
BB ($17575) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 9,4% | AGG: 19,4% | 3-Bet: 3,6% | Hands: 86]
UTG ($19829) [VPIP: 29,8% | PFR: 18,6% | AGG: 46,7% | 3-Bet: 2,1% | Hands: 165]
HJ ($17637) [VPIP: 24,2% | PFR: 15,7% | AGG: 28,8% | 3-Bet: 5,2% | Hands: 691]
HERO ($37526) [VPIP: 25,9% | PFR: 17,5% | AGG: 24,1% | 3-Bet: 5,4% | Hands: 133801]
BTN ($72526) [VPIP: 30% | PFR: 12,9% | AGG: 38,1% | 3-Bet: 2,2% | Hands: 242]
SB ($6890) [VPIP: 20,9% | PFR: 1,1% | AGG: 30,6% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 94]

Dealt to Hero: :Kd:Ks
UTG Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $1680, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $800

Hero SPR on Flop: [3,9 effective]
Flop ($4080): :5s:Ac:Kc
BB Checks, HERO Bets $1346 (Rem. Stack: 34500), BB Raises To $3195 (Rem. Stack: 12700), HERO Calls $1849 (Rem. Stack: 32651)

Turn ($10470): :5s:Ac:Kc:9c
BB Checks, HERO Bets $5235 (Rem. Stack: 27416), BB Calls $5235 (Rem. Stack: 7465)

River ($20940): :5s:Ac:Kc:9c:6S:
BB Bets $7465 (allin), HERO Calls $7465 (Rem. Stack: 19951)
BB shows: :Qc:5C:

BB wins: $35870


  • NinjahNinjah Red Chipper Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭
    When he raises you on the flop, his range is very Ax heavy and flush draw heavy. Low SPR and he isn't folding either of these. Just get it in on the flop. To answer your question, no we cannot find a fold here. Stacks aren't anywhere near deep enough.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 2,716 -
    FYI our spoiler syntax is spoiler not spoil. Edited it for you.

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  • MrFussMrFuss Red Chipper Posts: 142 ✭✭
    Yeah I'd be shoving the flop after V x/r. You have to call the river when you get there.
  • RedRed Red Chipper Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭✭
    Flop shoving 32000 against a 3000 c-r ?🤔
  • xyzxyz Red Chipper Posts: 22 ✭✭
    Red wrote: »
    Flop shoving 32000 against a 3000 c-r ?🤔

    I was thinking the same...but from what i know people arent really folding fds and he would not really fold his Ax too,but in that way my hand would look extremly strong and to this day i still dont know if i m really that terrified to let him see the river with this line on the flop.if the turn is a non club card i can make him pay a lot of get him into tuff spot a lot of the time but Ninjah is right about the stack sizes
  • NinjahNinjah Red Chipper Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭
    Red wrote: »
    Flop shoving 32000 against a 3000 c-r ?🤔

    V only has 12,700 after the xr.
  • RedRed Red Chipper Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭✭
    Ha yeah ok. I looked for H's stack size expecting it to be the eff. stack and didn't double check. (That's one of the reason I don't like these pre-edited HH too...)

    Sure, for 12'700 remaining, shoving is the right play (esp. when unlocking AX).

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