Facing a 5bet with QQ preflop
NL10 holdem online game. 6max. No stat. Average players. I'm (9,85$) opening 0,3 with QQ from CO. Shortstack BU (4,3$) calls. SB folds BB (13,35$) 3bets to 1,35. In this stakes lot of players Squeeze with wide range and I don't want to go 3way OUP with it, so I 4bet to 3,35$ and a lot of times I'm ahead. Rather win the pot now, than facing a flop A or K. BU folds, BB jams allin. Pot that I can win is 14,55$. The call is 6,5$.
Can I call that? Is he ever 5bet allin wider than KK+ AK? Should I 4bet less than that to make him fold? Can I go to the flop 3ways and be +EV with just a 3bet call?
Can I call that? Is he ever 5bet allin wider than KK+ AK? Should I 4bet less than that to make him fold? Can I go to the flop 3ways and be +EV with just a 3bet call?
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That said...I am usually suspicious of this kind of weirdness at the micros. Bluffing is more difficult than betting when you have a monster. I think there's less AI bluffing than people think in these spots.
So perhaps all things considered maybe this is a call but not necessarily a super +EV spot.
If you add AK to his range a call becomes profitable and of course as his range gets wider you gain EV.
Sure Maybe. Without any stats or other info on villain theres no way to tell. But at micros its certainly possible AQs, QQ, JJ are also in his shove range. Your 4bet is a good standard size. If theres any fold equity its probably only with a 4bet shove. Depends on their ranges. Also need to consider flop play. Say you call, BTN calls. Flop comes 8,5,3 rainbow. BB shoves. What do you do? If you plan to call then it's better to just 4bet shove pre. I wouldnt want BTN to great great odds calling with Ax or good SC. I think a call is probably the worst play here. Folding is too nitty. So you can only raise. If BB has AA, KK well that sucks and you're probably going to get stacked unless you play passively and an A or K comes on the flop. But if BTN comes along and hits a middle board then you're still getting stacked.
If you're going to 4bet you should have already considered what you would do if BTN or BB shoves. If im 4betting QQ im probably doing so with the intent to call a shove. And in that case you may as well just shove and pick up some fold equity.
Dont be afraid to get stacked with a premium hand. Sometimes you lose. Sometimes you win. Make appropriate notes on your opponents and move on.