# EV vs. Odds

Red Chipper Posts: 11 ✭✭
What's the difference between calculating EV versus calculating pot odds compared to expressed odds?

For me, it seems easier to determine how many outs I have and compare that to my pot commitment.

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edited September 2019
Sure calculating outs is easier, but unless you're contemplating an AI call it is not always the number you actually need to know.

This may help: https://www.splitsuit.com/simple-poker-expected-value-formula
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• Red Chipper Posts: 11 ✭✭
So when should I be doing the math for EV when I'm sitting at a table?
• Red Chipper Posts: 116 ✭✭
dj_sez wrote: »
So when should I be doing the math for EV when I'm sitting at a table?

See if one of @SplitSuit 's vidoes helps you out:
• Red Chipper Posts: 11 ✭✭
I've watched all these videos. I'm just confused as to when calculating EV is more beneficial than calculating my pot odds.

Pot odds is quicker. EV takes a while because I have to put them on a range so I can guess my equity and then do the math.
• Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
You are a little mixed up. Pot odds help form EV, you don't run EV equations at the table, or even if you did or essentially do in some scenarios, you don't then compare them to pot odds.
• Red Chipper Posts: 116 ✭✭
edited September 2019
dj_sez wrote: »
So when should I be doing the math for EV when I'm sitting at a table?

• Red Chipper Posts: 11 ✭✭