Strategy concept confusion

ulysses27ulysses27 Red Chipper Posts: 114 ✭✭
I have some confusion about some concepts and I was hoping someone might be able to clear them up for me. In The Course Ed Miller says "never pay them off". Which I get, most players at 1/2 and micro stakes don't bluff enough or effectively to make continuing against a large raise or re- raise +ev. But the 70% concept seems to contradict this idea. I guess I'm just trying to understand how these two concepts go together.


  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 3,623 -
    The simple answer is they don't. The 70% frequency approach is a coarse pseudo-GTO attempt to be unexploitable against opponents who bluff enough, whereas "don't pay people off" is an explicit exploitative strategy against opponents whose bluff frequency is way below optimal.
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  • ulysses27ulysses27 Red Chipper Posts: 114 ✭✭
    Got it. Thanks for that clarification.
  • Jordan PowerJordan Power Red Chipper Posts: 530 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2019
    Also a key tenet of the 70% model is that we should break the rules when our opponents break them first.

    And (near on) everyone at 1/3 is breaking the rules.

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