set on flushy flop

theagent77theagent77 Red Chipper Posts: 32 ✭✭
edited October 2019 in Tournament Poker Hands
1000+ players MTT, 100 left to ITM.
No reads on Villain as he has been just moved to my table.

UTG: 10,396 (14.9 bb)
UTG+1: 18,222 (26 bb)
MP: 18,756 (26.8 bb)
MP+1: 10,486 (15 bb)
MP+2: 84,239 (120.3 bb)
Hero (CO): 31,158 (44.5 bb)
BTN: 35,904 (51.3 bb)
SB: 18,913 (27 bb)
BB: 36,965 (52.8 bb)

9 players post ante of 50, SB posts 350, BB posts 700

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,500) Hero has :Tc:Ts
5 folds, Hero raises to 1,750, 2 folds, BB calls 1,050

Flop: (4,300, 2 players) :4d:Ad:Td
BB checks, Hero bets 3,500, BB raises to 7,116, Hero raises to 29,358 and is all-in, BB calls 22,242

Turn: (63,016, 2 players) :6d

River: (63,016, 2 players) :7d
Results: 63,016 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :4d:Ad:Td:6d:7d
BB shows :Jd:Kd(Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 46%, Flop 67%, Turn 77%)

Hero shows :Tc:Ts(Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 54%, Flop 33%, Turn 23%)

BB wins 63,016

And I'm out.

The reasons I shoved are:
1) if Villain overplays an ace, I will probably stack him off
2) if Villain bluffs, I win the pot right away, which I don't mind
3) if Villain has two pair, action could freeze with a fourth diamond. Also, Villain could bluff-shove and I'd be in a horrible spot
4) if Villain fills his flush, I have several outs

Is this a cooler or could I have avoided it? To be honest, I was really in doubt whether to just call or 4bet shove.

Comments

  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 2,840 -
    edited October 2019
    theagent77 wrote: »

    The reasons I shoved are:
    1) if Villain overplays an ace, I will probably stack him off
    2) if Villain bluffs, I win the pot right away, which I don't mind
    3) if Villain has two pair, action could freeze with a fourth diamond. Also, Villain could bluff-shove and I'd be in a horrible spot
    4) if Villain fills his flush, I have several outs

    Is this a cooler or could I have avoided it? To be honest, I was really in doubt whether to just call or 4bet shove.

    At this stack depth you're probably getting AI with middle set. That said, I think you can refine how you think about these spots and the reasons you give for your shove.

    Taking them point by point:

    1) On a monochrome board, I don't think V takes this line with a A unless they also have a big diamond side card.
    2) A pure check-raise bluff here would be extremely unusual. A central question on this flop is how V plays their FDs. But I don't think you'll often see V check-raise and then fold to your shove.
    3) You heavily block two pair. As to bluff-shoves, I rarely see them.
    4) If V is indeed on a FD rather than a made flush, you're happy to get AI.

    So where does all that leave us? If you just call the check-raise, would you fold the turn when the fourth diamond rolls off and surrender your equity? For this specific V, does your flop jam fold out hands that you have crushed?

    In aggregate I think this is just a cooler, and getting it in or just calling the flop check-raise seem to me to be close.

    My only other observation is that your flop c-bet is enormous.
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  • theagent77theagent77 Red Chipper Posts: 32 ✭✭
    Thanks for your timely comment.

    My cbet size was intentionally big because I wanted to give the impression to be weak, so that a raise from V could be more likely to happen. Does it make sense?
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 2,840 -
    theagent77 wrote: »
    Thanks for your timely comment.

    My cbet size was intentionally big because I wanted to give the impression to be weak, so that a raise from V could be more likely to happen. Does it make sense?

    I don't claim to be very good at poker, but one thing I've learned is that at the lower stakes you need a spooky good read to know how non-standard sizing will provoke your opponent into doing what you want them to do. Absent of such spookiness, default to fundamentally sound strategy.
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