Questions regarding two bluffs and how I could have played better. Thanks!

tofushit888tofushit888 Red Chipper Posts: 3 ✭✭
Hey guys! I have some questions regarding 2 hands that I played during an online session. Welcome any inputs / thoughts. These hands are also recorded in my latest pokervlog, feel free to check them out according to the time stamps below.

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Hand 1 (1:10 – 2:45). Stack sizes of 100-120BB

I have KcQd in the HJ position. UTG raises to 30. I was thinking of 3-betting here but ended up just flat calling. CO, button and the blinds all call…

Flop comes 2h-Jh-10c. Blinds checks and UTG checks, I check and CO/button both check.

Turn comes 6d. Blinds check. Now UTG leads out with 123. His bet seemed weird to me as any over pair or AJ or sets should bet the flop given multi-way action. So I thought I can put some pressure on him and I raised to 265 (Looking back this raise size was way too small and was definitely a mistake…). Folds backs to UTG, who then calls.

River comes 8s. UTG checks and I continue my bluff with a bet of 361. He has around 700 behind, and tanks, but ends up calling with QJ of clubs.

Question 1: Assuming I raised bigger on the turn and jammed on the river, is that a good bluff line to take?

Question 2: With KQ offsuit in HJ in a 100-120BB game, should I have 3-bet vs UTG preflop? By flat calling, I invited 4 extra players into the hand.

Hand 2 (10:53 – 11:54). Larger stack sizes of 200-300BB

I have 6-8 of spades in the SB position. UTG limps in for 10 and +1 raises to 40. I call, BB folds and UTG calls.

Flop comes 7s-4d-9h with one spade. I thought this is a really good flop for me to check raise with as I can continue to barrel on the turn if any spades, 10s or 5s come out. So I check, and interestingly UTG donks out with 62, and +1 folds. I stuck with my original plan and check-raised to 218, which UTG snap calls…

Turn comes a 8 of heart, which is a bit of an awkward card for me as now I pick up a pair of 8. I check and UTG checks.

Turn comes a J of clubs. I check again, and UTG checks as well and shows As-9d for the winner.

Question: With the 8 of heart on the turn, should I have continued to bet big instead of checking? Looking back, checking looked like the wrong move…

That’s all my questions for now. Thanks a lot!

Comments

  • JamesTheG1antJamesTheG1ant Los Angeles, CARed Chipper Posts: 51 ✭✭
    ...Now UTG leads out with 123. His bet seemed weird to me as any over pair or AJ or sets should bet the flop given multi-way action. So I thought I can put some pressure on him and I raised to 265 (Looking back this raise size was way too small and was definitely a mistake…)
    I'd agree that this raise size is too small. Probably little to no fold equity with essentially a min raise like this.
    Question 1: Assuming I raised bigger on the turn and jammed on the river, is that a good bluff line to take?
    I think it's a better bluff line than the min-raise turn / 1/2 pot river line taken. That being said, as-played up to the turn, I'd just flat call on the turn. By just flatting the turn, you invite the players behind you to call because you give them better pot odds to call. This in turn helps you because you get better odds on your straight draw without having to put in an actual raise yourself. So by flatting, you get to build a bigger pot for the times when you hit your straight on the river. Sounds like a great deal to me!
    Question 2: With KQ offsuit in HJ in a 100-120BB game, should I have 3-bet vs UTG preflop? By flat calling, I invited 4 extra players into the hand.
    Interestingly enough, I would actually fold KQo preflop in this situation. You're playing 8-handed and UTG raises, which is generally a very strong range. Unless you have some exploitative reason for calling or raising, this is a fold because KQo is crushed by V's range.
    To answer your specific question, I would prefer to 3bet KQo as opposed to flat calling. My reason is for the exact reason you gave: you invite too many players behind you into the hand. KQo is a hand that fares well in HU situations but poorly multiway. Contrast this with a hand like 87s which fares better when multiway.
    Question: With the 8 of heart on the turn, should I have continued to bet big instead of checking? Looking back, checking looked like the wrong move…
    Let me ask a question back at you before answering: If you were to bet on the 8, what is the goal of your bet? In other words, are you betting for value, as a bluff, or for protection? If you're unable to quickly determine an answer - why bet at all?
    Now to answer your question. Since V actually donk leads this flop, it is pretty likely he has something relatively strong on the flop, at least with respect to the exact board. So if we assume V is strong on the flop, does the 8 change things significantly? Probably not.
    Furthermore, by hitting the 8, you actually now have some showdown value. If for some reason V was actually bluffing on the flop (which would be unusual considering the donk lead), you are now ahead. So there's no need to bet your hand aggressively as a bluff unless you know you're behind.

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