Note Taking Mission

Chris_VChris_V BoiseRed Chipper Posts: 172 ✭✭
edited May 26 in Challenge Forum
I really need to improve on my live game hand note taking. For one year I'm challenging myself to take notes on every hand I enter the pot with no matter if it makes it past pre-flop or not. Since I play at most 4 hrs live per week it's around 200 hrs of practice.
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  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Las VegasPosts: 4,863 -
    Sounds like a solid plan.
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  • CriminalBizzyCriminalBizzy Las VegasRed Chipper Posts: 87 ✭✭
    Sounds like a good plan. I have started trying to take notes on every hand that I enter as well. So far it is not going so well. The first session, I stuck to hands that were not obvious stuff like open-raise, whiff the flop, check fold. Then my last session I just didn't take notes (epic fail).

    What are some other strategies that you are using to try and help improve your note taking?
  • Chris_VChris_V BoiseRed Chipper Posts: 172 ✭✭
    First night pretty shaky. Need to improve remembering the suits. I can see the ranks pretty easy but the suits float away from me by the end of the hand. I did get about 90% of the hands I played down on paper which is a vast improvement in itself. I think it's just going to take time and practice to get good at this skill.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Las VegasPosts: 4,863 -
    I swear it'd be easier if casinos used a 4-color deck.
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  • Chris_VChris_V BoiseRed Chipper Posts: 172 ✭✭
    edited May 27
    What are some other strategies that you are using to try and help improve your note taking?

    I think just the act of taking notes improves me. Repetition is the key.

    I do get anxious about my results to the point where sometimes I don't want to play. I know I'm not going to win every session, but something I can control is what I do at the table. I'm trying to play a little mind trick on myself. I'm playing to get notes taken and improve my game. Winning that session is just a bonus for the night.
  • Chris_VChris_V BoiseRed Chipper Posts: 172 ✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I swear it'd be easier if casinos used a 4-color deck.

    Oh, I could talk at length about this topic!
  • Chris_VChris_V BoiseRed Chipper Posts: 172 ✭✭
    This exercise is already revealing my many blind spots. If I can't remember the suits was I really paying that much attention to them? What was the SPR on the flop? What was everyone's position in the multiway hand?

    Online, all this information is almost automatically available to me and I can use a 4-color deck. Live, it's much more difficult to gather this information and be able to act on it in real time.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Las VegasPosts: 4,863 -
    edited May 28
    Something I tried when I was reintegrating to live play was to mentally do a lot of this in hands I wasn't in. It also relieves boredom and helps profile players. So for example:

    Player A raises, gets one call. Flop comes XXX. I ask:
    What's the SPR?
    Who has range advantage?
    How should the flop action go?
    Who wins this hand?

    It seems to improve my concentration.
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  • CriminalBizzyCriminalBizzy Las VegasRed Chipper Posts: 87 ✭✭
    I do my best to take notes as often as possible except for when the hand ends quickly. The hardest thing that I am finding is trying to take notes when you are still getting dealt hands. Especially when you get dealt playable hands back to back.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Las VegasPosts: 4,863 -
    edited May 28
    Chris_V wrote: »
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I swear it'd be easier if casinos used a 4-color deck.

    Oh, I could talk at length about this topic!

    Likewise. What is particularly frustrating is that the red/black deck only dominated because those color inks were cheaper decades (centuries?) ago. 4-color decks have been around since the 1900s, but we're told by card rooms that they can't use 4-color because "people don't like them".

    Sigh.
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  • CriminalBizzyCriminalBizzy Las VegasRed Chipper Posts: 87 ✭✭
    I actually stopped using four color decks online when I had gotten my first vaccine shot. I wanted to get used to looking at two colors.
  • Chris_VChris_V BoiseRed Chipper Posts: 172 ✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    .... but we're told by card rooms that they can't use 4-color because "people don't like them".

    Sigh.

    God bless the reactionaries who inhabit all games, for without them where would the profit come from? :)

  • Chris_VChris_V BoiseRed Chipper Posts: 172 ✭✭
    edited May 30
    First Day Notes. "K" = check. Looking over some of the small pot hands I played shows playing errors that I may have never investigated if not writing everything down. Like betting [9,9] on the turn after OOP called on a K63 flop. What was I thinking?

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  • GTOLifeGTOLife Hudson Valley, NYRed Chipper Posts: 907 ✭✭✭
    Honestly: I think that playing online a bit using HM3 or PT4 would really help a live only player. Keep in mind, I'm an online player only thus far. I've never played live. But to see how notes are categorized neatly and get a feel of what different hud stats mean would probably give you a great foundation to get started, as well as build intuition...which is something James always talks about when referring to proper off table study.
  • GTOLifeGTOLife Hudson Valley, NYRed Chipper Posts: 907 ✭✭✭
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    Chris_V wrote: »
    TheGameKat wrote: »
    I swear it'd be easier if casinos used a 4-color deck.

    Oh, I could talk at length about this topic!

    Likewise. What is particularly frustrating is that the red/black deck only dominated because those color inks were cheaper decades (centuries?) ago. 4-color decks have been around since the 1900s, but we're told by card rooms that they can't use 4-color because "people don't like them".

    Sigh.

    I love the way the different four color decks look online.
  • Chris_VChris_V BoiseRed Chipper Posts: 172 ✭✭
    Honestly: I think that playing online a bit using HM3 or PT4 would really help a live only player. Keep in mind, I'm an online player only thus far. I've never played live.

    I play both online and live. On-line I use PT4 and it's great but can become a crutch since I know the computer is taking notes for me.

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