Flatting qqs pre for big results

philby20philby20 Red Chipper Posts: 189 ✭✭
I played a hand last night at my local casino that I was pretty happy about and wanted to share. So I was dealt qqs in middle position the guy directly to my right opens to $15 it's a 1-3 game by the way the player in the bb had just sat down young loose guy he had really been dominating the table with squeezes and 3 bets and everyone had been obeying his moves so with this info I decided to use it against him and flat my qqs the cut off and button also call the 15 raise and as expected the lag in bn squeezes it up to $120 I got a little excited on the inside when he done this lol original raiser had about $250 and decides to go all in which wasn't part of my plan when I was thinking weather to raise or flat but anyway that was the situation I was now in but this guy had gone all in about 4 times since I sat down in the last hour so I figured there's a good chance he's not as strong as he's bet says he is so I jam for $300 and lag in bn tanks for ages and you can see he's hating life right now but eventually calls bb has a10s original raiser had a4s and my queens held up to win an $800 pot. The reason I wanted to share this was because my default play would have been to normally three bet pre but a little thought about how the hand would play if I took a different line paid of huge dividends and I think I went down this road after listening to sweenys podcast five things to think about before playing a hand where he talks about what do you anticipate the other players will do cheers for that split suit

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  • OutlierOutlier Red Chipper Posts: 158 ✭✭
    Great play! Your sharp observation about the BB made your flat preflop really profitable.

    One of the most memorable plays I heard along these lines was from a poker pro who observed the following hand played by another pro:

    $5/10 (bet sizes and stacks very "ballpark")
    V1 ($300) opens to $35
    Hero (covers table)AA calls raise
    V2 ($800) calls
    V3 ($2800) squeeze happy aggro reraises to $200
    V1 goes all in for $300
    Hero AA calls AGAIN
    V2 goes all in for $800
    V3 jams $2800
    Hero calls and wins gigantic pot vs V3's AJ.

    What impressed me so much about this play was hero's observation that V2 was short and looked to go all in (live tell of some sort, don't remember details), which would open up the betting again for the LAG. Hero's first flat call is basically what you did, but to flat call again after LAGs reraise is so amazing to me.

    Btw, not saying you should have flatted BBs squeeze in your hand--just sharing another hand along similar lines. Well played!
  • philby20philby20 Red Chipper Posts: 189 ✭✭
    Thanks outlier
  • Skors3Skors3 Red Chipper Posts: 669 ✭✭✭
    I agree. Well played. Clearly, you were being the observant one. You deserve the money. Well done.
  • BenLeewoodBenLeewood Red Chipper Posts: 285 ✭✭
    Very nicely played
  • philby20philby20 Red Chipper Posts: 189 ✭✭
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 5,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Outlier wrote: »
    Hero AA calls AGAIN

    He probably had to because the all-in wasn't enough to constitute a valid raise. But still, good story :-)

  • rabidjazzrabidjazz Red Chipper Posts: 107 ✭✭
    As written hero could have raised because he still had not acted on villain 3's legit reraise to $200.

    Congrats on the big pot and thinking ahead, philby.

    -rJ
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 5,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rabidjazz wrote: »
    As written hero could have raised because he still had not acted on villain 3's legit reraise to $200.

    Oh, of course.

  • ShayneShayne Red Chipper Posts: 19 ✭✭
    Sometimes it's good to be a little bit fancy. Well played. Nice result.
  • philby20philby20 Red Chipper Posts: 189 ✭✭
  • Jimmy3150Jimmy3150 Red Chipper Posts: 362 ✭✭
    Bet his heart was beating out of his chest with that 4-way allin with AA!

    V basic stuff like observation of player tendencies is massively profitable, good job.

    The LAG cant have been v good honestly ... Its a 1-3 game and he has 2 all-ins in front of him with A10s ... Errrr, dominated!

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