mbehr1983mbehr1983 Red Chipper Posts: 635 ✭✭✭
Last night my goal was 3 things none of wich I did. I wanted
A not limp
B ask the 5?s before playing
C calculate SPR
At the game it just seems to go so fast. How do you mange this and get through the thought before the flop. It is hard for me to assign stacks at the table guess I need more practice with the second 2 I will continue to work on these to get better but would like to know how y'all get through the pre flop process quickly at the table


  • bigpapsbigpaps Red Chipper Posts: 42
    The more you play the easier it becomes. Don't put so much pressure on yourself. Keep working at it and u will slowly progress.
  • Ranceg29Ranceg29 Red Chipper Posts: 145 ✭✭
    Two tips.

    1. Maybe just try 1 thing new per session until u get the hang of it.

    and this one is for anyone reading this thread....
    2. If you can afford it try out Advanced poker trainings website/software. Its not the end all pieces of software to make you become a crusher at the tables but you can set it up to look kinda like a live game and practice hundreds of spots a night compared to the few your gonna see at your next live session. Just playing 100-200 "playable hands" on my off days really allows me to get comfortable raising pre and 3 betting pre in spots I otherwise would be gun shy at the table. It gets me used to spots that I otherwise may not see in a week or 2 of being card dead during the malaise of the live grind. That way when these spots pop up im prepared. If you tried it out and decided to practice never limping and played 100 hands a day (30 mins) than not limping at the table playing live would just become second nature.

  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks ranceg29. Looking forward to checking it out.
  • Ranceg29Ranceg29 Red Chipper Posts: 145 ✭✭
  • jbruelsjbruels Red Chipper Posts: 134 ✭✭
    Ran's advice is good. Focus on one thing until it becomes automatic, happens without having to think about it. It's sort of like a golf swing, you need to develop muscle memory.
  • BenLeewoodBenLeewood Red Chipper Posts: 285 ✭✭
    Goal #1 is to NOT LIMP. Just don't do it. For an entire session. If you can't not limp, you may be playing in a game you're not comfortable in. Whether it be too high of stakes or too skilled of need to find a game that your more comfortable playing.

    If you're not comfortable with the stakes, you may want to consider playing in low buy-in tournaments. These can be real crap shoots sometimes. You may be able to find tournaments as low as $20 to get some solid "practice" in. So-Cal has a lot of these. It makes it easier to not think about the money and just play poker.

    Instead of putting down $100 on a $1/$2 can just enter a low buy in tournament with 4 extra bullets. You'd get a lot more play with your $100 and can start working on your game.

    Just a thought

  • mbehr1983mbehr1983 Red Chipper Posts: 635 ✭✭✭
    Yeah that's true. I am in an area with no casinos. All we have is cash here. These games are marshmallow pits. I have found out if I raise pot still goes multiway. In my current situation hate to be bloating pots. I think I have readjusted #1 to adapt to the style of play. I try and pick my spots with several limpers in position. I tried this and had kk and made it 60 pre and got 4 callers. Later in session raise and I 3bet to 100 withAK and still was 4 way. I think not limping in this game is a mistake.
  • JulesJules Red Chipper Posts: 441 ✭✭✭
    Mbehr it gets easier. All of the above I have struggled with and it has definitely gotten easier to multi task. I also would start with NOT open limping.

    In addition watching Split's Suits videos has taught me how to really think through a hand... I still have not mastered this, but I have improved!! He consistently reminds you to keep in mind SPR etc. and really breaks down hands so logically you can't help but absorb his advice. You will get there... soon you will be posting how you crushed Villain when he called your pre flop raise and you calculated the SPR on the flop and just knew you couldn't fold. :) Work off the table is as important as playing hands. I think Ranceg gave great advice about working on one thing at a time.
  • mbehr1983mbehr1983 Red Chipper Posts: 635 ✭✭✭
    Thanks. I have been watching the videos but need to put more off table work and pick one thing and try and apply it
  • Doug HullDoug Hull RCP Coach Posts: 1,876 -
    To practice things like keeping track of pot size and SPR, watch an on-line game at the same stakes as you would play live. Cover the pot with a sticky note. Try and keep up. Check your running total against the actual pot from time to time.

    Watching the same stakes as you play live will help with using the same magnitude of numbers as you normally would use. Do the same with SPR then forget about the hand and calculate it out to see how close you were.
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