Put Myself In A Rough spot

Napoleon54Napoleon54 Red Chipper Posts: 26
Last night 1/3 game. I just got moved to new table. Prior to the hand in question I've been at the table for 1 orbit.

The relevant VillIan is 50 Asian gentleman. I see him cold call a 3 bet, call a c bet and then fold to bottom pair of 7 on A high board after turn and river ck thru. Next hand he cold calls 3 bet and folds to c bet. Next hand I am UTG and make it 15 with AQo. 4 callers and he makes it 100 to go on the button. All fold. All of these hands are in 1 orbit.

Handing question. Please critique all thoughts and actions.
Villian has 700 , I have him covered.

Late position open to 15 by LAG. Villan 3 bets to 50. I have AKo in BB. I feel, based on my limited experience that I am probably ahead of his range. I want to raise enough to discourage light calls in position. * side note: this game has 3 raise cap which means he cannot 5 bet if I reraise. I make it 200 to go and he calls.I think he calls with JJ+ and AK. 27 combos I think.

Flop is TT3 rainbow. I think with continued aggression he folds QQ, JJ and AK. I bet 300 and he shoves for about 200 more. At this point I realize I can't fold now getting 6:1 on the chance that he went with QQ or JJ, and call.

Please tear it apart.


  • kytmagickytmagic Red Chipper Posts: 204 ✭✭
    edited March 2016
    I'm confused. You think he folds QQ or JJ to a c-bet on that board? Does not seem likely to me.

    Which seat was Villain in?
  • ArtArtBobartArtArtBobart Red Chipper Posts: 356 ✭✭
    I was there last night to witness this hand. Glad you posted it, as I was thinking about it myself on my lunch walk.

    I had moved to this table just before you. I saw him open to $100 with AA and get no callers. Yes, it was a very tasty game. My take was that he would call raises with hands he wanted to play, but would raise big hands. So his raise against the lag (who truly would raise ATC) was actually for value. He had no clue what the lag had and was not isolating, so that makes his range even stronger. My guess pre-flop was AK, QQ+. So I think you had roughly 40% equity vs his range.

    Personally, I would have at least considered folding pre-flop, or else flat the $50. You put yourself in position that you tried to sledgehammer your way out on the flop. As played I would have checked the flop and played poker from there. I'm pretty sure he would only bet top pair or better.

    I feel that as played your intent was that you had no escape plan and were essentially committing your stack pre-flop.

    That said your 3-outer on the turn vs his KK was a thing of beauty.
  • Napoleon54Napoleon54 Red Chipper Posts: 26
    You are probably right about his 3 bet range but I certainly didn't have any way of knowing that at the time. I think flatting w/AK oop would be OK.
    I think checking the flop virtually turns my hand over. Also, I think that if I check the flop and he bets I have no idea where I am and have to fold.

    If I am right about his range and what get will do with it, betting the flop as a bluff is certainly profitable as he is folding 21 of his 27 possible hands.

    The result of the hand is irrelevant but I admit that the American on the turn was beautiful.
  • ArtArtBobartArtArtBobart Red Chipper Posts: 356 ✭✭
    edited March 2016
    Sometimes it is OK to give up/play your hand face up on the flop. You can also check hands that may beat his range of you are worried about balance. You created an spr of 1 pot where he should correctly call with JJ+.

    Betting big every time on the flop in situations like this will burn you more often than not. Remember, he called a re- raise to $200 pre-flop. He probably folds non-pairs in this situation.

    If he calls with AK, that would be the only hand in his range he should fold. Keep in mind you also have AK. So he realistically is folding at most 9 hands.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2016
    The real problem is you think he folds to continued aggression but you didn't plan the hand in a way to leave yourself any room to do this with your betsizing, turning the situation into one street poker.
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember a recent video with doug playing live at the bike where he faced a 3bet with AK and just mucked it preflop. The logic was does he continue with worse if you 4 bet and answer was no so he folded easily with only little money invested.

    Where are you guys playing at?
  • ArtArtBobartArtArtBobart Red Chipper Posts: 356 ✭✭
    Funny I was thinking about that video as well at the time. We were playing at Little Creek Casino in Shelton, WA.

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