Hand 9: XX on T63

NinjahNinjah Red Chipper Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭✭
Opening: 22+, 54s+, T8s+, KTs, A4s, A5s, A9s+, A9o+, JT-KTo, QJ-KJo, KQo. 294 combos for 22% open. Once the BB 3-bets, my standard play would be to 4-bet QQ+ and AK, however since we view the BB as a weak TAG I chose to call here with those hands to prevent letting him off of the hook preflop and to capitalize on his mistakes postflop. I am also calling AQo, KQo, 88-JJ, 87s-KQs, AT-AQs, and A4s/A5s. I think that flatting my stronger hands also prevents a capped range heading to the flop as well as add deception to my calling range in this spot. I don't want Villain to assume that I am always 4-betting exactly QQ+ and AK. Heading to the flop with 126 combos at 10%.

FLOP: :Tc :6c :3h

Down to 120 combos after the flop. I don't like raising here because Villain could still have a fairly wide range here on the flop and I think raising him allows him to play significantly better against our range. I'm floating any hand that has a chance to improve on the turn as well as going to the turn with the expectation of betting and taking it down a lot if he gives up. Calling with 94 out of 120 combos for 78%. Calling with 88+, flush draws, ATs+ w/ BDFD, AKo, AQo, as well as :Ah :5h and :Ah :4h for BDFD and BDSD.

TURN: :3d

Once Villain shoves the turn, I'm calling with 88+, AT, and all overs+ FD combos. This is 47 out of 94 combos for a 50% calling frequency. We need 47% equity to call here and even if I assign Villain a shoving range as tight as TT-AA, AKo, and all combos of AKs and AQs, we have 52% equity. I do believe his shoving range here could possibly include some weaker hands like 88 or 99 as well which would improve our range equity even more.

Comments

  • SplitSuitSplitSuit RCP Coach Posts: 4,030 -
    Preflop: You are defending often here, which can certainly be valid. What kind of range assumptions are you making about villain that has you a.) continuing so often vs a 3bet when the SPR won't be that large and b.) floating the flop so liberally?

    Postflop: Are you making the assumption that villain thinks you are floating the flop often and thus is shoving the turn to get you to fold things like AJ-AK and the like?
  • NinjahNinjah Red Chipper Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭✭
    @Splitsuit Preflop I think Villain could be in love with a lot of mid pp and Broadway hands. If he's a weaker player I expect he's c-betting too much here and overplaying his hand on the turn because the board isn't scary and I've taken a fairly passive line to this point. Of course he'll show up here sometimes with JJ+ but I think there's a lot of overcards he's playing this way too. Do you think the range I assigned him is fair and pretty accurate? If my assumptions are correct then I believe I have the proper equity to call.
  • OutlierOutlier Red Chipper Posts: 158 ✭✭
    @Ninjah, where are you getting 47% equity required to call? Aren't we calling $320 to win $320+$360, or 2.1:1 (32%) to call?

    On a different note, it's interesting how differently you and I interpreted "weak TAG." You said you took it to mean he c-bets too often on the flop; I took it to mean he doesn't c-bet enough. In other words, he plays tight and raises when he comes in, but doesn't c-bet enough when he doesn't hit. Hence, my postflop reasoning looks quite different from yours. I see our villain with a very tight range by the turn: ATs, JJ+, and a few flush draws like AJcc, AQcc, AKcc, maybe KQcc. I did not include 99 and 88, though again I think you make good case for including them.

    I also like your point about flatting QQ+ not to let them off the hook. In my hand below, I did 4-bet them.
  • OutlierOutlier Red Chipper Posts: 158 ✭✭
    PREFLOP OPENING RANGE: 34%, 454 combos
    22+, 54s+, 64s+, 87o+, J9o+, 85s+, A2s+, A8o+, A2-A4o
    Against this line up, I'm raising a very wide range preflop
    PREFLOP CALLING RANGE: 13%, 168 combos
    I'm calling with many hands because I assume by "weak TAG" a player who does not continue often enough when he misses the flop and we can take it away.
    4-betting only premiums: QQ+, AK

    FLOP: :Tc :6c :3h

    FLOP CALLING RANGE: 48%, 72 combos
    TT, 66, QQ, JJ, KTs, QTs, JTs, T9s, T8s, A2-AJcc, A6s, A3s, KQcc, KJcc, J9cc, A2-AQhh, KJhh, KQhh, 98hh, 98hh, 86hh, 76hh, 75hh, 65hh
    Overpairs--call, though I have only QQ and JJ
    Sets--call. We can easily get the $ in with SPR = 1 going to turn
    Flush Draws--raising only combo draws like 98cc, 87cc, 97cc, 75cc and maybe AQcc.

    Again, my main assumption here of a "weak TAG" is that he doesn't c-bet often enough, so this substantial flop bet means ATs or better, with maybe 99 and 88. The only bluffs I'm assigning to villain are flush draw + 2 overs like AJcc+, KQcc. I thus count on having very little fold equity here and am shoving my combo draws primarily to realize my own equity.

    Villain being unbalanced here with c-bet frequency justifies my calling with my lower 48% frequency.


    TURN: :3d

    TURN CALLING RANGE: 39%, 28 combos
    TT, A3hh, A3cc, QQ, 50% of JJ (combos not containing Jc)

    I'm calling $320 to win $680, so I need 32% equity call. I'm no longer getting the right price chase flush draws. The board pairing kills many of my two-pair draws, so I'm also folding weaker top pairs. My calling frequency seems very low, but it all goes back to my assumption of "weak TAG" = unbalanced, and these actions suggest he's too heavily weighted toward big made hands.
  • NinjahNinjah Red Chipper Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Outlier wrote: »
    @Ninjah, where are you getting 47% equity required to call? Aren't we calling $320 to win $320+$360, or 2.1:1 (32%) to call?

    On a different note, it's interesting how differently you and I interpreted "weak TAG." You said you took it to mean he c-bets too often on the flop; I took it to mean he doesn't c-bet enough. In other words, he plays tight and raises when he comes in, but doesn't c-bet enough when he doesn't hit. Hence, my postflop reasoning looks quite different from yours. I see our villain with a very tight range by the turn: ATs, JJ+, and a few flush draws like AJcc, AQcc, AKcc, maybe KQcc. I did not include 99 and 88, though again I think you make good case for including them.

    I also like your point about flatting QQ+ not to let them off the hook. In my hand below, I did 4-bet them.

    I mistakenly did 320/320+360 = 47% to calculate equity to break even (risk/risk+reward). I did not include his $320 bet on accident which would make it 320/1000 = 32%. Even better for our range! I suppose there are different ways to view a weak TAG, I viewed it as he will standard c-bet quite often and then give up a lot if called which is why my strategy on the hand played out the way it was with a lot of floating.
  • Briax24Briax24 Red Chipper Posts: 44 ✭✭
    HAND #9

    PRE-FLOP: Range: AA-22,AKo-A8o,KQo-KTo,QJo-QTo,JTo,AKs-A2s,KQs-K9s,QJs-Q9s,JTs-J9s,T9s-T8s,98s-97s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s,54s (% of form 26.1%) (Combos:346)
    I am opening 54s+, all broadway, suited aces, and A8o+
    I think there is an argument for opening some more hands here we stand to have the button when we raise rather frequently. I’m thinking a little more Kxs and Qxs.

    CALL PRE-FLOP 3Bet: QQ,AKs (% of Previous range: 2.9%) (Combos: 10)
    Based on the Villain description I think I just muck AQ and 99. I probably call with QQ. This strategy seems transparent but once this player 3-bets he has a pretty strong range. I think it might be:
    AA-JJ,AKo,AKs
    Sometimes not even AK or JJ.

    Weak TAG gives me the impression that Villain is not 3-betting very wide and betting strong hands for value while not bluffing enough. Meaning he will C-bet a good amount but not barrel enough probably.

    FLOP: Range: QQ (%of Previous range 60%) (Combos: 6)
    I am going to call with my overpairs (QQ) bluff with my 2 combos of AK that have a flushdraw or backdoor flushdraw. I don’t have any sets.

    TURN: Range: QQ, (% of previous range 100%) (Combos:6)
    I have to make a crying call with QQ if I think Villain will jam JJ and AKcc. If not, then I have to fold these queens. I think I lean towards a fold. When The opponent doesn’t have the single AK combo and the JJ I am in terrible shape.

    Note: This hand shows some problems in my strategy for dealing with three bets. Should I have more hands in my calling range? I generally take a 4-bet or fold approach. If the Villain is tight enough to fold JJ-QQ, AK then I mix in some 4-bet bluffs. I guess I am just not a fan of calling 3-bets. I think I am leaving $ on the table. I would be interested in discussing how best to deal with 3-bets from this players and players with different styles too. In the 2-5 games at my local casino three betting is rare. A few players have wider ranges but for the most part its QQ+. These guys could be considered more NIT than TAG. Its interesting many of us assign different meaning to the description WEAK.
  • rvansandtrvansandt Red Chipper Posts: 54 ✭✭
    @Briax24, 3-Betting is rare where I play too. When it does happen it seems to be QQ+ (though lately I've been occasionally seeing 99+ ) but then wouldn't calling in position be a way to maybe exploit this? I think if stacks are deep enough, calling 3-bets with a wider range could be profitable.

    PRE-FLOP Range: 35%, 458 combos
    22+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J7s+, T7s+, 96s+, 85s+, 74s+, 63s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A9o+, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o

    Opening with wide range due to BB being weak TAG. I am assuming they will not play post flop well such as c-betting too much and folding to aggression.

    PRE-FLOP Calling Range: 12%, 34% of previous range, 156 combos
    77+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, AQo+

    I think BB 3-betting with tight range, 3%, 34 combos, QQ+, AKs, AKo but will play fairly straightforward.

    FLOP :Tc :6c :3h

    FLOP Calling Range: 5%, 37% of previous range, 57 combos
    AA, TT-77, ATs, AcJc+, Ac9c-Ac7c, Ac5c-Ac2c, KTs, KcJc+, QTs, QcJc, JTs, T9s, 9c8c, 8c7c
    I'm calling with some MPs, and draws since I think BB is c-betting his entire range of QQ+, AKs, AKo.

    TURN :3d

    TURN Calling Range: 2%, 33% of previous range, 19 combos
    AA, TT, ATs, AcJc+, Ac3c, KcJc+, QcJc

    This range has 59% equity vs. 41% equity of BB range (QQ+, AcKc).
  • Briax24Briax24 Red Chipper Posts: 44 ✭✭
    @rvansandt I think the exploitive move against a tight 3-bet range is folding. If we are trying to get to post flop and exploit our opponent it is good to know what we are trying to exploit. If it is Villain's willingness to fold, we may have trouble with such an over-pair heavy range. On the other hand if stacks are very deep then we can attempt to out-flop our opponent or pull off a bluff on a later street after having shown some strength on the flop.

    In this case we are only 100bb deep. With 32bb in preflop that doesn't leave a lot of room for post flop maneuvering. We have an SPR of less than 3 which means we are getting close to playing for stacks. I can think of some nasty spots where we flop top pair but are up against either an AK type bluff (that has some good equity) or crushed by over-pairs. In this situation we should be sure we are not calling light just to play hit-to-win.

    Also, I recognize your Rabbit Chip, do you play at Hollywood Charles Town?
  • rvansandtrvansandt Red Chipper Posts: 54 ✭✭
    @Briax24, I played at Charles Town prior to poker opening in MD. I feel that poker rooms in MD are so much better; location and comps. I'm looking forward to the MGM opening at the end of the year.
  • RedRed Red Chipper Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    Don't forget that we are not sure about the quality of all villains as we've only seen 1 orbit. Is the NIT on the button a TAG who got bad cards ? Is the "Terrible" a calling-station? Is the weak TAG raise/fold or too tight? Thus I would rather keep a tighter range.

    Also a forgotten assumption about the weak TAG: he could also make a lot of 3-bet mistake i.e. 3 betting too wide. Hence I would 4-bet quite a bunch of my range as value bet or bluff/semi-bluff (outright profit). Also because we've just arrived (1 orbit) we could (still) have a tight image and be scary with a bluffy 4 bet.

    On the flop, a call kinda means we are going to stack off (creating a 360$ to our 320$ stack). So I would call only with a strong range (with all-in on the turn) and FD (i.o. to get paid if we hit).

    For the exercise, my ranges:
    Preflop 25$ opening: 88+, AJ+, ATs, KQ, KJs, 87s and A2s-A4s (these last to put some bluff with equity). = 11% for 146 combo.
    Since we don't really know the other players, I don't really want to be called with a too liberal range.

    Preflop call to 3 bet: AQo, ATs, AJs, KQ, KJs, T9s-KQs (=64 combos; 43.8% of previous range)
    Preflop fold: 87s-98s
    4 bet: 88-AA (value or bluff), AK, AQs, A2s-A4s (bluff). (=74 combos; 50% of previous range)
    As weak TAG, I think he would fold too widely and I would rather go for a 4-bet. I call with the weak-with-equity part of my range.

    Flop call to 100$: JTs and T9s, 50% of my overcards (depending on tell) and FD (all with overcards). = 55.7% of my range and 34 combos
    Raise AT.
    I don't have overpairs or set (I would have 4-bet them). If I had, I would rather call and go all-in on the turn.

    Turn call all-in: nothing (busted FD or overcards only in my calling range). See upper comments too.
  • mbehr1983mbehr1983 Red Chipper Posts: 635 ✭✭✭
    Hand 9
    I am only opening 22.2% 294 combos
    AA-22,AKo-ATo,KQo-KJo,AKs-A2s,KQs-K7s,QJs-Q9s,JTs-J9s,T9s-T8s,98s-97s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s-53s,43s
    after 3b I am continuing with about half that range 109% and 132 combos
    JJ-66,AQo-ATo,KQo-KJo,QJo,AQs-ATs,KQs-KJs,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s 10.9% and 144 combos
    I am 4 betting with QQ+ and AK because if this is a weak tag he might be inclined to overvalue 99+ AQo and stack off
    F :Tc :6c :3h
    we should have range advantage on this board as well
    here I am continuing here with 41% of range and 54 combos
    JJ-66,ATo,ATs,JTs,T9s,AcQc,AcJc,KcQc,KcJc,QcJc,9c8c
    I only have JJ as an overpair and calling with all unless its a combo draw
    Sets I am calling and hoping he makes a mistake on the turn
    T :3d
    continuing with 67% of previous range and 36 combos
    JJ-TT,66,ATo,ATs,JTs,T9s,AcQc,AcJc,KcQc,KcJc,QcJc,9c8c
    I am calling overs and folding medium pairs unless they have a combo draw left and folding most other draws as not getting the proper price
  • NuttedNutterNuttedNutter Red Chipper Posts: 44
    HAND #9

    SC's? From 43s-AKs. With this specific dynamic I'm expecting a lot of folds preflop or either an hu pot w/ btn nit or BB weak tag. If we get it hu with SB terrible we can just play post flop and lean towards value. Being IP against SB gives us an edge not too worried about SB. I think this range maybe looks a bit loose, however if I expect loads of folds then almost ATC will get the job done.

    Axs hands? All A2s-AQs

    RANGE: AA-22,AKo-A8o,A5o,KQo-K9o,QJo-Q9o,JTo-J9o,T9o,98o,AKs-A2s,KQs-K2s,QJs-Q4s,JTs-J6s,T9s-T6s,98s-96s,87s-85s,76s-74s,65s-64s,54s-53s,43s

    %FORM: 38.5%
    COMBOS#: 510

    BB WEAK TAG 3bets $80. Fold, 4bet, call 3bet w/..

    QQ? I expect BB weak tag to have a snug range and play fit-or-fold postflop, therefore ip I'd elect to call a hand like QQ against him. While he may not do it always he does end up having a hand like AK/AQ at least 50% of the time I'd think. If I 4bet I'd only get KK-AA to 5bet jam, maybe his QQ calls or folds and he'd likely fold AK/AQ at this point which I don't want. I'd want the opportunity to get at least one street of value if the flop doesn't fall Ace or King high and he decides to cbet.

    99? I'd call 3bet here. From the same logic w/ QQ I don't see much value in 4betting.

    AQ? I'd 4bet maybe 50% of the time and the other 50% call 3bet. I figure he has AK/AQ himself a lot in these spots, if I elect to 4bet a hand like AQ it could accomplish getting him to fold AK/AQ himself which would be a great result for us in this spot.

    RANGE: AA-22,AKo-A8o,A5o,KQo-K9o,QJo-Q9o,JTo-J9o,T9o,98o,AKs-A2s,KQs-K2s,QJs-Q4s,JTs-J6s,T9s-T6s,98s-96s,87s-85s,76s-74s,65s-64s,54s-53s,43s

    %FORM: 38.5%
    COMBOS#: 510

    :Tc :6c :3h

    Call or raise w/?

    Overpairs? Raise JJ-QQ. It says weak tag so I'm not entirely sure if that means completely fit or fold weak tight guy or at least capable of at least semi-bluffing in a 3bet hu oop. I'll give this opp the benefit of the doubt and say that he's betting all T's that make sense to me that he'd 3bet pf.. JTs-ATs, maybe T9s. Which we can get value from. He could also be betting all his fd's especially suited club broadways like QcJc-AcKc, KcJc, AcJc, KcQc.

    Sets? Raise all sets for value against the same range as above and maybe a 54s type hand.

    Flush Draws? Call. I have position and a decent amount of equity with a hand like AKs. Since he lead flop I think he at least hit top pair or better and isn't bluffing that often w/ his own FD's.

    RANGE: AA-22,AKo-A8o,A5o,KQo-K9o,QJo-Q9o,JTo-J9o,T9o,98o,AKs-A2s,KQs-K2s,QJs-Q4s,JTs-J6s,T9s-T6s,98s-96s,87s-85s,76s-74s,65s-64s,54s-53s,43s

    %OF PREVIOUS RANGE: 34.4%
    COMBOS#: 160

    BB jams.. call w/..

    Overpairs? Call JJ-QQ. With JJ/ I'm showing 70% equity vs his FD range. It makes sense to me that he'd jam a hand like AcKc. Doesn't know what else to do with it. With a top pair hand like ATs I have 92% equity. At worst I'd be tying with his own JJ-QQ which is unlikely since I have the other combos.

    Medium Pairs? No I fold. I think the BB Weak Tag turn jam range is JTs-ATs, an FD, JJ-QQ and full houses at this point. T's full of 3's and 6's full o 3's, maybe turned trips w/ a hand like Kc3c or Ac3c. 99-77 appear to be crushed at this point and it's time to abandon ship.

    Draws? Fold. W/ my best fd AcKc I'm showing 30% equity vs. his range only. To make the little over 1.5x PSB I'd need 42% equity. Pass.

    RANGE: AA-TT,66,33,Ac3c,Kc3c,5c3c,4c3c
    %OF PREVIOUS RANGE: 22.2%
    COMBOS#: 35









  • AcesaladAcesalad Red Chipper Posts: 240 ✭✭
    $25 appears to be the table-standard for open-raise sizing.
    Are you opening all suited connectors from here?
    All except 43 & 32
    What about Broadway hands? All
    What about AX hands? All
    Opening wide here hoping to fold the Nit and go against one or both of the other two.
    %-Form:37.0% Combos 490
    Range:
    AA-22,AKo-A2o,KQo-K9o,QJo-QTo,JTo,AKs-A2s,KQs-K2s,QJs-Q6s,JTs-J7s,T9s-T7s,98s-96s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s
    The BB 3bets to $80
    When building this range consider the hands you would call the 3bet with vs 4bet. Would you call or 4bet:
    QQ? Call
    99? Fold
    AQ? Call
    % of Previous Range:12.6% Combos 62
    Range:QQ-TT,AKo-AQo,AKs-ATs,KQs
    There are 2 players to a $160 flop
    Flop:
    :TC: :6C: :3H:
    The BB bets $100 and you call.
    Consider which hands you are going to raise on this flop as well. Would you call or raise with:
    Over Pairs? Call
    Sets? Call
    Flush Draws? Call
    I'm calling everything here, even if I have a set I want to give him a chance to stick arond and bet on the Turn
    % of Previous Range:37.9% Combos 22
    Range:QQ-TT,ATs,AcKc,AcQc,AcJc,KcQc
    There are 2 players to a $360 turn
    Turn:
    :3D:
    The BB goes all-in and you call.
    Based upon the hands you called with on the flop, are you going to call this all-in with:
    Over Pairs? No
    Medium Pairs? No
    Draws? No
    % of Previous Range:13.6% Combos 3
    Range:TT
    Considering the strong line this TAG took I am only calling with my full house. I don't think he is bluffing often enough for this to be profitable.
  • keasbeykeasbey Red Chipper Posts: 91 ✭✭
    edited September 2017
    Weak TAG assumptions - would rather call middle pairs than 3 bet. would probably fold suited connectors out of position vs a short stack. Would 3 bet large pairs and AK.
    Post flop - does like overpairs but can be afraid of JJ, and maybe QQ depending on situation. Does not overvalue middling pairs or top pair, actually more likely that they undervalue them leading to easy bluff targets (unlike a weak LAG or fish). Usually plays "not to lose" rather than to win. Become concerned when weak TAG shows strong aggression. I am a weak TAG and this is how i would approach this hand (but I of course joined the community to improve.)

    Preflop
    Nit on the button is likely to fold, so with a raise i am taking position on 2 weak players. I would open a large range here and play poker. Stacks are pretty deep.
    I will raise most suited connectors and all AXs and broadway. AXo down to A9. Will also include top side suited gappers.

    Raise: AA-22,AKo-A9o,KQo-KTo,QJo-QTo,JTo,AKs-A2s,KQs-KTs,QJs-QTs,JTs-J9s,T9s-T8s,98s-97s,87s


    Preflop 2:
    Flat the 3 bet with 88-QQ AJ-AQ and KQ. 4 Bet with AA, KK AK. I think a 4 bet with QQ is dangerous as i dont see this player even with limited information calling with a clearly second best hand like AQ or KQ, or JJ. likely they fold or call/raise with a better hand or coinflip.
    3Flat: QQ-88,AQo-AJo,KQo,AQs-AJs,KQs

    Flop
    Question with the raise is will i get a better hand to fold, or a worse hand to call. I think weak TAG with AK is happy to C-bet once, but not double or triple barrel. If I raise, i think AK goes away. I wonder if i should raise with TT. Will weak TAG with QQ+ call a raise? Hard to Tell... they are scared of large pots without the nuts. I may call TT with the intention of small-betting the turn to try and generate an extra call from hands that check the turn. We probably lose hands like JJ and AK if we raise. I dont think the weak tag has TX in his hand, it doesnt strike me as a three bet range for him. A-high type hands get folded without a draw. Would i raise a Nut flush or King flush? Being a weak tag, he may fold if facing a jam, which is certainly fine since he likely has a better than than AQ AJ or KQ. Let us proof with Equilab.

    According to Equilab, AQc AJc, KQc has a 36% equity vs villain shove-call range range of KK+ TT. In this situation we need the villain to fold 4% of the time from fold equity calculator.. and being a weak tag i think we are very likely to get that number of folds. I will raise/jam strong flush draw.

    Flop Range: QQ-88,AQo-AJo,KQo,AhQh,AdQd,AsQs,AhJh,AdJd,AsJs,KhQh,KdQd,KsQs

    Turn
    I dont have flush draws as i would have jammed the flop with flush draws. However, would you jam a flush draw? it becomes a pot odds decision. i would be getting 2 to 1, which means i need 33% equity to break even. With one card to come, i have at most 18% equity (probably less due to dead clubs cuz full ring). nut flush draws may have 23% equity in the event V is jamming with KK. Either way, a turn shove call with a flushdraw is very -EV, so it would have to be a fold. i am calling with TT, AA and KK. AK is a fold. I dont see a weak tag playing this fast with anything less than a large overpair. Against TT+, QQ has 31% equity. IF weak Tag does not do this with JJ, then QQ has 7% equity. In this spot i would want more information about Villains range. therefore i fold QQ.

    Turn Call - AA, KK TT.
  • TravisTravis Red Chipper Posts: 455 ✭✭✭
    PreFlop: Standard Range from CO: Against a weak TAG in position I don't usually 3 bet
    Flop:I don't mind calling against a weak TAG with a lot of my range as they tend to Cbet too much and can bluff the turn, and they over play flop top pair even when an overcard hits the turn. Maybe reraise with nuflush draw
    Turn: Not a lot of top pair in V 3bet range. He may be betting a flush draw on the turn but a lot of his range is better than TPTK. Since he can likely beat top pair he can also beat JJ. Fold these Flush draws also have overcards so right odds for a begrudging call,, maybe 50% of time depending

    PREFLOP : AA-44,AKo-ATo,KQo-KTo,QJo-QTo,JTo,AKs-A2s,KQs-K2s,QJs-Q9s,JTs-J9s,T9s-T8s,98s-97s,87s-85s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s-53s

    3bet call:AA-77,AKo-AJo,KQo,AKs-ATs,A5s-A2s,KQs-K9s,QJs-Q9s,JTs-J9s,T9s
    26.4/12.7 48pr 350/168combos
    FLOP: AA-TT,AKo-AJo,AKs-ATs,A5s-A4s,A2s,KTs,QTs,JTs,T9s,Ac3c,KhQh,KcQc,KhJh,KcJc,Kh9h,Kc9c,QhJh,QcJc,Qh9h,Qc9c,Jh9h,Jc9c
    68% of prev 115 Combos

    TURN: AA-QQ,TT,ATs,AcKc,AcQc,AcJc,Ac5c,Ac4c,Ac3c,Ac2c
    27% 31 Combos
  • bogata XLbogata XL Red Chipper Posts: 29 ✭✭
    My CO-openrange is 55+, A7s+, A8o+,Br8s+, BrTo+, 98s, 87s, T8s.
    Q1: What is my lowest suited connector?
    A1: 87s

    Q2: which Br do you open on CO?
    A2: Br8s+ and BrTo+. This is standard, you are new to the table and don't know your opponents yet.

    Q3: Which Ax do you open?
    A3: A7s+ and A8o+. Maybe I can be a bit wider with the suited Aces.

    My openrange has 316 combo's.
    this is 23,8% of all combo's.

    BB 3bets 3*.

    Q4: What do you do with QQ?
    A4: 4bet. I 4bet JJ+.

    Q5: What do you do with 99?
    A5: Call. I call 88 - TT.
    55-66-77 I fold

    Q6: What do you do with AQ?
    A6: Call. Sometimes I would 4bet AQ depending on the opponent. If he is very wide I can 4bet for value. Or if he folds 80% of the time to a 4bet, I can 4bet also.

    My Call to 3bet-range is
    66 combo's
    This is 21% of my previous openrange

    FLOP Thigh 2tone, quite dry
    He cbets 100 = 60%pot
    I call

    Q7: Call or raise with OP?
    A7: I don't have OP in my range. If I should have JJ in my range, I would raise.

    Q8: Call or raise with sets?
    A8: Raise. I only have set TT in my range. I would raise for value from FDs and overcards and gutshots.

    Q9: Call or raise with FD?
    A9: Call.

    My callrange on the flop

    2 underpairs 88 and 99 = 12 combo's
    FD's : AcQc, AcJc, KcQc and QcJc = 4 combo's

    TP: JTs = 3 combo's
    and ATs = 3 combo's

    Overcards with backdoorFD : AKo with 1 club = 6 combo's

    Totally 28 combo's.
    This is 28/61 = 46% of previous prefloprange

    TURN
    3d is more or less a brick
    Villain goes all in. SPR is 1.4

    Q10: Do you call with OP?
    A10: No, he shows too much strength. I don't have OP in my range.
    If I should have JJ in my range, I would fold it.
    Price is very high and I think there is a big chance that I will run into QQ+

    I don't think that he will overbet all in with AT.

    Q11: Do you call with MP?
    A11: No, fold

    Q12: Do you call with draws?
    A12: No, price is too high. No implied odds.

    In this hand you call.
    I don't have any hands in my range with which I can make the call.
    If I didn't raise my set TT on the flop and TT would be in my range, then that is the only hand I can make the call with.

    3 combo's = 3/28 = 11% of previous flop-call-range
  • Mark FlemingMark Fleming Red Chipper Posts: 76 ✭✭
    Hand #9

    Preflop: Its folded round to me in the CO and I raise 5 BB ($25). This could mean anything because of my position. I’m betting most SC, all BW hands, and all Ax. My range is 30% with 398 combos AA-22,AKo-A8o,KQo-K9o,QJo-Q9o,JTo-J9o,T9o,AKs-A5s,KQs-K8s,QJs-Q8s,JTs-J8s,T9s-T8s,98s-97s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s. I get 3B $80 and call. I would have 4 bet AA-99,AKo,AKs,AQs.

    Post Flop :Tc :6c :3h
    BB raises $100 which could be a CB. I would raise OP, but not raise sets, and not raise FD. Between this answer and the preflop answer, I would have to say I do not have OP, so I remove them from my range. I continue with 28% of the previous range having 96 combos TT,66,33,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo,T9o,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,T9s-T8s,54s,AcKc,AcQc,AcJc,Ac9c,Ac8c,Ac7c,Ac5c,KcQc,KcJc,Kc9c,Kc8c,QcJc,Qc9c,Qc8c,Jc9c,Jc8c,9c8c,9c7c,8c7c,7c5c

    Turn :3d
    BB goes all in, and I decide not to call with OP since I eliminated that part of my range PF. I do not call with medium pairs or FD. This leaves me continuing with my sets, but raising an FH. I would not continue with OESD. So this is 75% of my previous range having 70 combos TT,66,33,ATo,KTo,QTo,JTo,T9o,ATs,KTs,QTs,JTs,T9s-T8s.
  • AP07AP07 Red Chipper Posts: 22 ✭✭
    33% opening range 446 combos

    Hand starts as a dream spot and we should be opening liberally. Nit and weak tag will fold very often. The only thing that would be better is if terrible was in BB.

    Weak tag catches us but he's a weak tag, so he's likely just woke up with something. We're folding a lot and flatting the rest. I would 4 bet AK and AQ fairly small but flat my big pairs as we're already heads up and in position.

    Because we opened so wide and we're in position against a weak tag, we will call a little wider than usual 3bet calling range leaning towards hands that flop well and looking to steal it later if he shows weakness but still ditching hands he likely dominates like AJo and KQo

    3 bet flat range: 154 combos
    Pairs, KQs-54s, AJs - A9s, A5s-A2s suited broadways



    Flop :Tc :6c :3h

    This is great flop for us. We can have everything. He has the overpairs but not even sure he has top set in his range.

    I'm raising sets and flush draws to put max pressure on the weak tag. Especially given all my flush draws have overcards or straight draws to go with them, I'm happy to get it in.

    Flatting overpairs and top pair along with some decent-equity floats and I'll bet my entire range if he checks turn. So we're bringing 50 combos 37% range to the turn

    Turn :3D:

    When weak tag shoves I'm def thinking more exploit than balance. Don't think he has many bluffs here or is value betting worse than overpair, but even weak tag could get stubborn with AK occassionally and jam and pray. Given 48% of my range is overpairs, I'm calling all of them and folding top pair and below.

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