Being slightly British I tend to avoid hyperbole, but I've been beta-testing this and have spent a lot of my time with my mouth hanging open in amazement.
Do you remember the first time you got your hands on PokerStove? It's that feeling.
I have also been beta testing it and it is awesome. It has applications that we have not even thought of yet. Stay tuned for lots of Flop Falcon content. Excellent work Doug.
Let me start out by saying Flopzilla is great software, every serious poker player should buy a copy.
The big differences between Flop Falcon and Flopzilla (and Equilab, poker stove, etc...) to me are:
Filtering by when they hit too
What good is it to play a speculative hand if they don't hit when you do?
Flop Falcon allows both ranges to select their "hit requirements" so you know how often you will hit your hand and they hit theirs.
Break down in equity.
Flopzilla (and all other analysis software I know of) gives the average equity- a single number.
Flop Falcon shows the breakdown or spread of that equity in a histogram. There is a big difference between having 50% equity where half the time you have 0% equity and half the time you have 100% equity and having 50% equity where every time you are a coin flip.
Flop Falcon is showing the difference between "Way ahead or way behind" and "coin flip" where both reduce to "50%" equity when seen as a single number in other software.
Flop Filtering
Certain ranges play better on certain flop textures. All of the above analysis can be done on a subset of flop textures. Want to only consider "paired rainbow flops", or "Ace high flops where you don't hit a set" We can do that with Flop Falcon.
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Poker Cruncher is an app that is limited in features but is available on mobile. It gives you a single number for equity in a range on second range (on third range, on fourth range...) scenario. That is all it really does, but it does it well.
The portability is the key feature for it. I use it at the tables after I get sucked out on to quantify my bad luck!
These are two different things really. I recommend Poker Crunch for mobile use without hesitation, but it is different thing totally than Flop Falcon for all the reasons mentioned earlier.
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Poker Cruncher is an app that is limited in features but is available on mobile. It gives you a single number for equity in a range on second range (on third range, on fourth range...) scenario. That is all it really does, but it does it well.
The portability is the key feature for it. I use it at the tables after I get sucked out on to quantify my bad luck!
These are two different things really. I recommend Poker Crunch for mobile use without hesitation, but it is different thing totally than Flop Falcon for all the reasons mentioned earlier.
I think you didn't played a lot with it @Doug Hull because the mobile version is not the full version. The "expert" version is on MAC and PC and it does a lot of things. Actually Hunter Cichy did a video for Red Chip about it. Since then the app did some good update too.
Will this software be available for both PC and iOS?
PC only. I don't have a Mac. I wrote this in MATLAB, and could compile a version for that platform if there was huge demand, but I would need a funded kickstarter to buy a Mac just for this first... So, unlikely...
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@Doug Hull What are the features that Flopzilla has that Flop Falcon will not? Are both products going to be necessary or will Flop Falcon fulfill all my deepest desires?
Flop Falcon does not do turn and river cards directly.
The Falcon does play well with other software by copying and pasting ranges.
The Flop Falcon
* does range on range (Flopzilla does not without a free add-on that Doug never got working [Edited after response below from @porter] )
* does hit requirements for both ranges
* does flop filtering (only paired flops, Ace high, etc...)
* gives unique histogram breakdown of equity, not just average.
* more detailed flop hit requirements (not all 2p are equal)
* Calculates mutual hit, mutual miss, single player hit percentages.
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I don't see a PC version, If there is one, I missed it in their website.
I don't have a Mac, rewatching bits of the Hunter video, Cruncher looks similar to Flopzilla so everything I said above, applies to Cruncher also.
I love Cruncher on mobile.
Well cruncher does range vs. range which Flopzilla dont do i think.
It does Hit Hand stats and Make Hand stats on any Flop/Turn/River
You can filter every streets.
It gives EQ% distribution in the Matrix and with a Grap like CREV.
You can weight range.
And it calculate up to 10 players.
It's a really must for MAC users and yes you are right there is no PC version. The full version is way ahead of the mobile one.
Thanks for the article Doug. It should start becoming clear to the audience that this is a more powerful way to look at flops when planning a hand. To compare it to Poker Cruncher or Flopzilla is short sighted. Flop Falcon will change the way we look at flops.
Looking forward to more content.
I'm looking forward to checking out Flop Falcon but, to be clear, Flopzilla does perform range vs. range analysis. You just have to open two instances of Flopzilla and link them to HoldEQ (which is free/included with Flopzilla). It is a bit clunky but it's very powerful. @SplitSuit has at least one video where he explores this functionality.
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1. Likely in January 2017
2. Somewhere between $20-$50 (one-time fee)
3. Same fee for everyone.
You have no idea.
Being slightly British I tend to avoid hyperbole, but I've been beta-testing this and have spent a lot of my time with my mouth hanging open in amazement.
Do you remember the first time you got your hands on PokerStove? It's that feeling.
Its a bird. The other one is a Dinosaur.
I wish I had intended this in naming the product. I lol'd pretty hard.
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Let me start out by saying Flopzilla is great software, every serious poker player should buy a copy.
The big differences between Flop Falcon and Flopzilla (and Equilab, poker stove, etc...) to me are:
Filtering by when they hit too
What good is it to play a speculative hand if they don't hit when you do?
Flop Falcon allows both ranges to select their "hit requirements" so you know how often you will hit your hand and they hit theirs.
Break down in equity.
Flopzilla (and all other analysis software I know of) gives the average equity- a single number.
Flop Falcon shows the breakdown or spread of that equity in a histogram. There is a big difference between having 50% equity where half the time you have 0% equity and half the time you have 100% equity and having 50% equity where every time you are a coin flip.
Flop Falcon is showing the difference between "Way ahead or way behind" and "coin flip" where both reduce to "50%" equity when seen as a single number in other software.
Flop Filtering
Certain ranges play better on certain flop textures. All of the above analysis can be done on a subset of flop textures. Want to only consider "paired rainbow flops", or "Ace high flops where you don't hit a set" We can do that with Flop Falcon.
Author Poker Plays You Can Use
Author Poker Workbook for Math Geeks
The portability is the key feature for it. I use it at the tables after I get sucked out on to quantify my bad luck!
These are two different things really. I recommend Poker Crunch for mobile use without hesitation, but it is different thing totally than Flop Falcon for all the reasons mentioned earlier.
Author Poker Plays You Can Use
Author Poker Workbook for Math Geeks
Ca Caw
Are we talking about this?
http://www.pokercruncher.com/
I don't see a PC version, If there is one, I missed it in their website.
I don't have a Mac, rewatching bits of the Hunter video, Cruncher looks similar to Flopzilla so everything I said above, applies to Cruncher also.
I love Cruncher on mobile.
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Author Poker Workbook for Math Geeks
PC only. I don't have a Mac. I wrote this in MATLAB, and could compile a version for that platform if there was huge demand, but I would need a funded kickstarter to buy a Mac just for this first... So, unlikely...
Author Poker Plays You Can Use
Author Poker Workbook for Math Geeks
The Falcon does play well with other software by copying and pasting ranges.
The Flop Falcon
* does range on range (Flopzilla does not without a free add-on that Doug never got working [Edited after response below from @porter] )
* does hit requirements for both ranges
* does flop filtering (only paired flops, Ace high, etc...)
* gives unique histogram breakdown of equity, not just average.
* more detailed flop hit requirements (not all 2p are equal)
* Calculates mutual hit, mutual miss, single player hit percentages.
Author Poker Plays You Can Use
Author Poker Workbook for Math Geeks
Well cruncher does range vs. range which Flopzilla dont do i think.
It does Hit Hand stats and Make Hand stats on any Flop/Turn/River
You can filter every streets.
It gives EQ% distribution in the Matrix and with a Grap like CREV.
You can weight range.
And it calculate up to 10 players.
It's a really must for MAC users and yes you are right there is no PC version. The full version is way ahead of the mobile one.
When are you gonna launch Flop Falcon ?
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Looking forward to more content.
It's a bit hard for those who didn't try the software to share the enthusiasm and normal to ask questions ;)
I'm looking forward to checking out Flop Falcon but, to be clear, Flopzilla does perform range vs. range analysis. You just have to open two instances of Flopzilla and link them to HoldEQ (which is free/included with Flopzilla). It is a bit clunky but it's very powerful. @SplitSuit has at least one video where he explores this functionality.