Super Dumb Question...

JokersMild85JokersMild85 Red Chipper Posts: 12 ✭✭
My local casino only offers 1-3 for No Limit as it's smallest game and not 1-2. Is bet-sizing the only difference I can expect between the two or are there any other factors I should consider? Obviously max starting stacks will be slightly bigger. Thank you in advance for answering my dumb question.


  • DabbyDabby Red Chipper Posts: 84 ✭✭
    I wouldn't say this is a dumb question. And if it is, we're in this boat together. My whole "poker career" has consisted of strictly tournaments. It was only recently that I started to sit down and play some cash games. I noticed my casino only has 1/3 as well. I'm interested in what people have to say about this as well. Perhaps everything from 1/2 still applies here.
  • Rich57Rich57 Red Chipper Posts: 96 ✭✭
    My take, from the perspective of limited experience is that in 1-2 games, you often see open raises from 6-12 and in 1-3 it is almost always 10-25. Thus you are getting 3-6bb openers in 1-2 and 3.5-8bb in 1-3. This is just from my observations. Three bets also tend to be proportionally larger in 1-3 (35-75) as opposed to 20-40 in 1-2. These are not huge differences but they tend to impact SPR and how many bbs you have if you buy in for 100bbs as an average.
    I think there is more maneuvering room in 1-3 games and prefer them. Maybe some of the pros can enlighten us as to more subtle differences.
  • moishetreatsmoishetreats Red Chipper Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
    My casino did the same thing, and I echo many of @Rich57's observations. I'll tell you one other [unintended?] consequence, though:

    When there was 1/2 and 2/5, almost NONE of the 2/5 players EVER played 1/2. For them, there just wasn't enough money at the 1/2 table to "make it worth their time". Indeed, they would only call in for 2/5 and often wait the 20+ minutes until a seat opened up rather than play at 1/2.

    1/3 changed all that. Some 2/5rs still have that attitude, but many now go back and forth. Indeed, a couple of 2/5 regs look at 1/3 as a way "just to build my bankroll". Others look at it as way to scoop up good money while risking less. And I can literally only think of one player who won't play 1/3 while waiting.

    Bottom line: the elimination of 1/2 in favor of 1/3 brought some of the 2/5 regs -- some of whom were fish but more of whom were relative sharks -- to the table.
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This was brought up before - that there is no difference between 1/2 and 1/3 in play, all else being equal. Thus I said there were no card rooms that offered both (why would they?) Well, I've never seen one, but some people have said both games are spread in the same room. Usually that's not the case. So whenever 1/2 or 1/3 are the smallest games offered in a room, they should play the same. The differences are mostly due to the players playing any particular day. If the buyins are significantly different, that can change things though.
  • EazzyEazzy Red Chipper Posts: 936 ✭✭✭✭
    my card room used to offer 1-2, 1-3 and 2-5 with the difference being the buy in.....1-2 was 60 to 300, 1-3 100 to 500 and 2-5 was 200 to 1000...with 2-5 rarely going. the 1-3 played more like a 2-5 then a 1-2.

    Then a couple of years ago the merged the 1-2 and 1-3 together...called it supper 1-2 with a 100 t0 500 buy in. It plays 90% like a 1-2. with some late night games getting lots of people buying in for 500 and playing more like a 2-5.

    My guess is your game will play very similarly to the 1-2 with slightly larger preflop raises most of time.

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