What do you buy in for at your cash game?

Joshua K

Just wanting a general consensus of what you may buy in for in your cash game. Do you buy-in for the max? Min? Or, somewhere in between?

bigburge10

I come in for the max and re-up when I fall below the max--at my regular place, this is 160bb's.

There is a casino near me that allows players to match the big stack at the table. With 3 casinos in my area, this particular casino attracts a very weak player pool and I usually match the biggest stack there.

RCP Coach - Fausto Valdez

what @kagey said

Joshua K

kagey wrote: »

2-400bb deep in ⅓
150-250bb deep in 2/5

That's interesting​. Our max. is 100bb at one casino and 66bb at the other.

bigburge10

At the places I play, outside of the place that allows players to match the big stack, the biggest buy in is 160BB--and most are 100BB.

SplitSuit

100bb if I feel rusty.
Max when I don't.

kagey

2-400bb deep in ⅓
150-250bb deep in 2/5

jeffnc

Joshua K wrote: »

That's interesting​. Our max. is 100bb at one casino and 66bb at the other.

Wow, 66BB - gross.

This is generally accepted to be a bad stack size to willingly buy in for, due to the awkward SPRs often encountered, etc.

But if everyone does it - comments on possible exploits?

Dabby

The 1/3 game for my casino, max buy-in is 100bb. No match stack or anything. I've never bought into any game where I could buy in for more than 100bb. How does that affect the game?

jeffnc

Well, deeper stacked poker plays differently than shallower stacked poker. That probably deserves its own thread(s), but books and strategies have been written.

Dabby

jeffnc wrote: »

Well, deeper stacked poker plays differently than shallower stacked poker. That probably deserves its own thread(s), but books and strategies have been written.

Right but, 100bb isn't really shallow stack right? I guess mid-stack or more accurate. But perhaps the majority of players would be short stack due to only buying in with mid-stacks.

I'll add short stack poker somewhere in my long list of things I need to study.

jeffnc

100BB is considered "standard". Usually you hear things like <=40, short stack, >=200 Deep stacked, 80-200BB standard, 40-80 "no mans land".

Short stack poker is very well worth studying, even if you never have a short stack yourself. (You will certainly encounter opponents with short stacks, and then effectively you are playing a short stack.)

The shallower you get, the simpler the poker gets (I didn't say easier, but it is probably that too.) The deeper you get, the more complicated and thus most people think the most skill required. But certainly short stack poker requires different skills than deep stacked poker.

Chibber

IMO, given that cash game open raises are often 4-7x the bb, I would consider a 100bb starting stack short.

Bankroll/budget considerations aside, I think your choice of buy in should be commensurate with your skill set and/or your opponents'.

persuadeo

Your buy in corresponds with your strategy. Seeking some consensus is how to get the wrong answer, here and in most things.

Jónas S

jeffnc wrote: »

Joshua K wrote: »

That's interesting​. Our max. is 100bb at one casino and 66bb at the other.

Wow, 66BB - gross.

This is generally accepted to be a bad stack size to willingly buy in for, due to the awkward SPRs often encountered, etc.

But if everyone does it - comments on possible exploits?

Get used to some 50bb max buy in online for instance and get comfortable with that is one way to do it. Also if you've got some experience in MTTs then 66bb is something you should be able to work with. Just make sure to work around with the SPR when you're making the decisions.

kagey

persuadeo wrote: »

Your buy in corresponds with your strategy. Seeking some consensus is how to get the wrong answer, here and in most things.

@persuadeo ... since two people agreed and 3 others thought this was "pro advice"
does that mean that the consensus is that you're correct?
but if that's true... then that would mean that you're advice is wrong.... because you have a consensus about how not to follow the consensus... so then should I follow a consensus??

damn, I'm confused!

Christian Soto

Infinite

persuadeo

Notice what i wrote- seeking a consensus on this issue was likely to be a poor approach, not necessarily the consensus.

More calisthenics on Dagobah for you.

Adam Wheeler

@kagey there is 11 peoples excluding OP that gave an answer in the thread. How could 5 peoples make the majority into a 11 peoples group ?

kagey

@Adam Wheeler some votes are worth more than others.

besides his pots got the most votes... so seems like that would be a consensus...

Adam Wheeler

No

Cononthepoker

My local casino has a shallow 1/1 game (25min 250max) and a deep 1/1 game (50min 500man) - I always buy in for the max depending on which game I play/is running and top up if I fall below 100bb