What do you buy in for at your cash game?

Joshua KJoshua K Red Chipper Posts: 82 ✭✭
Just wanting a general consensus of what you may buy in for in your cash game. Do you buy-in for the max? Min? Or, somewhere in between?

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  • kageykagey Red Chipper, KINGOFTAGS Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2-400bb deep in ⅓
    150-250bb deep in 2/5
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Joshua K wrote: »
    That's interesting​. Our max. is 100bb at one casino and 66bb at the other.

    Wow, 66BB - gross.

    This is generally accepted to be a bad stack size to willingly buy in for, due to the awkward SPRs often encountered, etc.

    But if everyone does it - comments on possible exploits?

  • DabbyDabby Red Chipper Posts: 84 ✭✭
    The 1/3 game for my casino, max buy-in is 100bb. No match stack or anything. I've never bought into any game where I could buy in for more than 100bb. How does that affect the game?
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 2017
    Well, deeper stacked poker plays differently than shallower stacked poker. That probably deserves its own thread(s), but books and strategies have been written.
  • DabbyDabby Red Chipper Posts: 84 ✭✭
    jeffnc wrote: »
    Well, deeper stacked poker plays differently than shallower stacked poker. That probably deserves its own thread(s), but books and strategies have been written.

    Right but, 100bb isn't really shallow stack right? I guess mid-stack or more accurate. But perhaps the majority of players would be short stack due to only buying in with mid-stacks.

    I'll add short stack poker somewhere in my long list of things I need to study.
  • jeffncjeffnc Red Chipper Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100BB is considered "standard". Usually you hear things like <=40, short stack, >=200 Deep stacked, 80-200BB standard, 40-80 "no mans land".

    Short stack poker is very well worth studying, even if you never have a short stack yourself. (You will certainly encounter opponents with short stacks, and then effectively you are playing a short stack.)

    The shallower you get, the simpler the poker gets (I didn't say easier, but it is probably that too.) The deeper you get, the more complicated and thus most people think the most skill required. But certainly short stack poker requires different skills than deep stacked poker.
  • ChibberChibber Red Chipper Posts: 366 ✭✭✭
    IMO, given that cash game open raises are often 4-7x the bb, I would consider a 100bb starting stack short.

    Bankroll/budget considerations aside, I think your choice of buy in should be commensurate with your skill set and/or your opponents'.
  • Jónas SJónas S Red Chipper Posts: 202 ✭✭✭
    jeffnc wrote: »
    Joshua K wrote: »
    That's interesting​. Our max. is 100bb at one casino and 66bb at the other.

    Wow, 66BB - gross.

    This is generally accepted to be a bad stack size to willingly buy in for, due to the awkward SPRs often encountered, etc.

    But if everyone does it - comments on possible exploits?

    Get used to some 50bb max buy in online for instance and get comfortable with that is one way to do it. Also if you've got some experience in MTTs then 66bb is something you should be able to work with. Just make sure to work around with the SPR when you're making the decisions.
  • kageykagey Red Chipper, KINGOFTAGS Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    Your buy in corresponds with your strategy. Seeking some consensus is how to get the wrong answer, here and in most things.

    @persuadeo ... since two people agreed and 3 others thought this was "pro advice"
    does that mean that the consensus is that you're correct?
    but if that's true... then that would mean that you're advice is wrong.... because you have a consensus about how not to follow the consensus... so then should I follow a consensus??

    damn, I'm confused!
  • Christian SotoChristian Soto RCP Coach Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Notice what i wrote- seeking a consensus on this issue was likely to be a poor approach, not necessarily the consensus.

    More calisthenics on Dagobah for you.
  • Adam WheelerAdam Wheeler Red Chipper Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭✭
    @kagey there is 11 peoples excluding OP that gave an answer in the thread. How could 5 peoples make the majority into a 11 peoples group ?
  • kageykagey Red Chipper, KINGOFTAGS Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    @Adam Wheeler some votes are worth more than others.

    besides his pots got the most votes... so seems like that would be a consensus...
  • Adam WheelerAdam Wheeler Red Chipper Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭✭
  • CononthepokerCononthepoker Red Chipper Posts: 38 ✭✭
    My local casino has a shallow 1/1 game (25min 250max) and a deep 1/1 game (50min 500man) - I always buy in for the max depending on which game I play/is running and top up if I fall below 100bb

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