Pro videos - geared towards live or online play?

Chris FChris F Red Chipper Posts: 155 ✭✭
I love the 1/2 crash course but since I only play in a casino I wondering if most of the pro videos are geared towards live casino play or for online play?

Thanks.

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  • tripletiretripletire Red Chipper Posts: 229 ✭✭✭
    They're mostly for live players, this forum/site is based more on live in general
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭
    edited September 12
    tripletire wrote: »
    They're mostly for live players, this forum/site is based more on live in general

    https://howtoplaypokerinfo.com/poker-training-sites/

    In general, this site is more well rounded than any other right now. This is just a link I grabbed quick but the point is that there really aren't any other sites worth joining right now other than this one and RIO. PokerStrategy.com is great - to a point. Then, it's mid+ stakes content falls through the floor and is virtually nonexistent. Further, you're not paying for exclusive content. A ton of it is just replays of live twitch seminars they did. This is also the complaint a lot of people have with Upswing Poker.

    The only thing you don't really focus on much here is SNG's that aren't heads up. That's a + for most Americans, anyway. MTT's, Cash, Heads Up. That's where the online and offline money is. No other site covers these areas more extensively and well rounded than RCP. I've tried extensively to find something else worth subbing to and there just isn't anything right now other than, again, RIO. That said, RIO is too jack of all trades and you can get a PLO video one day, an MTT video the next, and a video on training like an athlete the following. It's just not my cup of tea and not something I would pay for now that they increased their pricing for the essential. The full membership is $99 and that's just insane, IMO.

    RCP + Great Software + Heavy Study + Bankroll Building. I think that's a far better plan than subbing to all different training sites and winding up so lost you'll feel like your head is spinning.
  • kageykagey Red Chipper, KINGOFTAGS Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 12
    It used to be mostly for live players.
    But lately it seems every coach wants to use 6-max examples for their "concept" videos

    that said - the library is super deep with live-type videos back when Ed Miller used to make them

    LOL @Joseph F 's link that says they have HU vids here!
    not on Joseph's list is CLP which is exclusively live NLHE & PLO
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭

    kagey wrote: »
    It used to be mostly for live players.
    But lately it seems every coach wants to use 6-max examples for their "concept" videos

    that said - the library is super deep with live-type videos back when Ed Miller used to make them

    LOL @Joseph F 's link that says they have HU vids here!
    not on Joseph's list is CLP which is exclusively live NLHE & PLO

    Of course I noticed that in the link. As said, I just grabbed it quick as a means to illustrate my point. They don't have much HU content here but really - Where do they? There simply is nowhere to go for advanced, professional HU training today other than over to HUSNG's which hasn't produced content in ages. They're still selling training packages from 2010 for hundreds of dollars. The HU training market is wide open currently.
  • kageykagey Red Chipper, KINGOFTAGS Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭
    I think Ivey League, Blue Fire and Run It Once have a bunch of HU vids in their library.
    Isn't Sauce an instructor at RIO?
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭
    kagey wrote: »
    I think Ivey League, Blue Fire and Run It Once have a bunch of HU vids in their library.
    Isn't Sauce an instructor at RIO?

    I don't know about Sauce but I do know that Ivey League threw in the towel somewhat recently and Blue Fire only sells training packages now. The market has dried up considerably in the last couple of years. As said, I researched these sites heavily. There's not a lot out there after you look at RCP and RIO. Period.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sauce is great and the content is strong at RIO but considering the caliber and number of name coaches they have, the mixed game content is very sparse. I'll be putting my RIO dollars elsewhere soon.
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    Sauce is great and the content is strong at RIO but considering the caliber and number of name coaches they have, the mixed game content is very sparse. I'll be putting my RIO dollars elsewhere soon.

    Where, though? The only other place to go at that level is Upswing Poker.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭
    persuadeo wrote: »
    No idea.

    Yeah, see that's what I'm saying. There are legitimate holes to be filled in the market. I think RCP is doing a better job in pursuing filling those holes than the other sites. I've seen a ton of RIO members voicing similar opinions as you lately.

    I can go ahead and guarantee you right now that if RCP pushes a bit, especially now, there will be a lot of new faces on the forums soon.
  • kageykagey Red Chipper, KINGOFTAGS Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭
    Joseph F wrote: »
    Yeah, see that's what I'm saying. There are legitimate holes to be filled in the market. I think RCP is used to be doing a better job in pursuing filling those holes than the other sites.
    fyp

    cardrunners has heads up vid
    and upswing now has a HU package
    most of CR and other sites stuff is dated... but hey, if you're just learning. it's get you started.

    I think Doug's PR stunt to take on durrrr is to promote his HU material
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper, Table Captain Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • kageykagey Red Chipper, KINGOFTAGS Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭
    is Johnny Bax's Poker X Factor gone now?
  • Adam WheelerAdam Wheeler Red Chipper Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭✭
    Who is that durrrr you're again talking about ?
  • kageykagey Red Chipper, KINGOFTAGS Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭✭
    Who is that durrrr you're again talking about ?

    seriously?
    you dont know tom dwan?
  • Adam WheelerAdam Wheeler Red Chipper Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭✭
    Is it dourrrr or Tom Dorn ?! It is not clear.
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭
    edited September 13
    kagey wrote: »
    Joseph F wrote: »
    Yeah, see that's what I'm saying. There are legitimate holes to be filled in the market. I think RCP is used to be doing a better job in pursuing filling those holes than the other sites.
    fyp

    cardrunners has heads up vid
    and upswing now has a HU package
    most of CR and other sites stuff is dated... but hey, if you're just learning. it's get you started.

    I think Doug's PR stunt to take on durrrr is to promote his HU material

    Once again: Cardrunners is basically dead. They don't even sell subscriptions anymore. You guys need to keep up with the times on this.

    Now, Upswing does have a new HU package but it's astronomical and not worth it for me at this point. As far as dated material - I've found new and dated material for free on YouTube by HUSNG.com. They may not be making new content on their main site, but the content they have on YouTube is more than sufficient for me right now. I fixed an OOP leak and a hand selection leak @ early levels after watching one video.

    Again: RCP could just start a new playlist on HUSNG and HU Cash and resolve all of this :heart

    As for getting back to the OP: They can't just focus on mainly live play here on RCP. There's not enough of a market and it just doesn't make any sense to ignore online play since that's where such a huge portion of the poker players are. The fact that they focus on both live and online here @ RCP, to the extent that they do, legitimately makes them the best option for me.

    The fact is that I've never gotten any legitimate return on investment from any other site. Not even DeucesCracked when it was still strong. I'm getting immediate and instant return on investment from RCP. Numbers don't lie.
  • kenaceskenaces Red Chipper Posts: 671 ✭✭✭

    kagey wrote: »
    I think Ivey League, Blue Fire and Run It Once have a bunch of HU vids in their library.
    Isn't Sauce an instructor at RIO?

    Yes Sauce make NLH content on RIO

  • kenaceskenaces Red Chipper Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
    Joseph F wrote: »
    Once again: Cardrunners is basically dead. They don't even sell subscriptions anymore. You guys need to keep up with the times on this.

    Now, Upswing does have a new HU package but it's astronomical and not worth it for me at this point.

    Dough's HUNL content is very good but much less value these days as it is very hard to get enough HUNL action to justify all the study time required
  • kenaceskenaces Red Chipper Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
    Joseph F wrote: »
    The fact is that I've never gotten any legitimate return on investment from any other site. Not even DeucesCracked when it was still strong. I'm getting immediate and instant return on investment from RCP. Numbers don't lie.

    Glad you are having success, but the return on investment(only $20/mo) on training sites like CR, and DC back in the day was huge because the games were so soft and plentiful.
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭
    kenaces wrote: »
    Joseph F wrote: »
    The fact is that I've never gotten any legitimate return on investment from any other site. Not even DeucesCracked when it was still strong. I'm getting immediate and instant return on investment from RCP. Numbers don't lie.

    Glad you are having success, but the return on investment(only $20/mo) on training sites like CR, and DC back in the day was huge because the games were so soft and plentiful.

    Yeah, I can't speak on those days as I wasn't playing poker then. I do know that DC and CR were clearly the nuts back then, though. Things have just really changed in the poker world over the last ~40 months.
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭
    kenaces wrote: »
    Joseph F wrote: »
    Once again: Cardrunners is basically dead. They don't even sell subscriptions anymore. You guys need to keep up with the times on this.

    Now, Upswing does have a new HU package but it's astronomical and not worth it for me at this point.

    Dough's HUNL content is very good but much less value these days as it is very hard to get enough HUNL action to justify all the study time required

    This is exactly what I'm researching right now: Would the study for HU cash be that drastically different from shorthanded cash? I'm seeing if I can still play HU cash as a side game in addition to my 6max volume. Not even worth it or not a bad idea?
  • kenaceskenaces Red Chipper Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
    Joseph F wrote: »
    kenaces wrote: »
    Joseph F wrote: »
    Once again: Cardrunners is basically dead. They don't even sell subscriptions anymore. You guys need to keep up with the times on this.

    Now, Upswing does have a new HU package but it's astronomical and not worth it for me at this point.

    Dough's HUNL content is very good but much less value these days as it is very hard to get enough HUNL action to justify all the study time required

    This is exactly what I'm researching right now: Would the study for HU cash be that drastically different from shorthanded cash? I'm seeing if I can still play HU cash as a side game in addition to my 6max volume. Not even worth it or not a bad idea?

    I would suggest focusing on one thing at a time
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭
    kenaces wrote: »
    Joseph F wrote: »
    kenaces wrote: »
    Joseph F wrote: »
    Once again: Cardrunners is basically dead. They don't even sell subscriptions anymore. You guys need to keep up with the times on this.

    Now, Upswing does have a new HU package but it's astronomical and not worth it for me at this point.

    Dough's HUNL content is very good but much less value these days as it is very hard to get enough HUNL action to justify all the study time required

    This is exactly what I'm researching right now: Would the study for HU cash be that drastically different from shorthanded cash? I'm seeing if I can still play HU cash as a side game in addition to my 6max volume. Not even worth it or not a bad idea?

    I would suggest focusing on one thing at a time

    Does this include also sticking to either full ring or 6 max? Or can those be mixed?
  • kenaceskenaces Red Chipper Posts: 671 ✭✭✭
    Joseph F wrote: »
    Does this include also sticking to either full ring or 6 max? Or can those be mixed?

    If your main interest is in online poker than just focus on 6m imo
  • Joseph FJoseph F Red Chipper Posts: 416 ✭✭
    My interest is in cash games online and then ultimately live cash. That's why I was thinking either some FR or HU cash would mix in nicely. No?