Casino ruling.

AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
Couple Limpers then a guy makes it 20 and bunch of callers. Guy announces "if someone goes all in I'm going to call." Two guys later guy shoves and calls for a ruling after another person called in the middle as well.

So it goes like
6
20
20if anyone goes all in I'm going to call.
20
20
All in 200
Call all in 200
Then casino says its binding and the guy has to put his chips in.

Is it really binding with action changing?

One of the floor people says the rule book says "verbally 'maybe' binding."

Whats up with all this maybe BS? And the guy that called the angle can't even beat Ax. Had like King high and tried to angle shoot.

Comments

  • Duncan TDuncan T Red Chipper Posts: 55 ✭✭
    In this case I'm not sure whether the action changing is relevant given the wording. i.e. He hasn't said "if someone goes all in and no-one calls I will" (or maybe I'm just being overly pedantic).

    Given this it is purely a case of whether verbal declaration is/isn't binding which is not clear. Whoever wrote a rule saying verbally maybe binding is an idiot. But at the end of the day that's the floors problem
  • JonasJonas Red Chipper Posts: 160 ✭✭
    So essentially a conditional, out of turn action/response? I would think it's not binding. And they should have explicit rules about it. But then again... technically he verbally checked a box "Call any all-in" if this were online.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • AustinAustin Red Chipper Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2017
    @ persuadeo

    Action was clearly changed from 20 to 200 and definitely out of turn.

    If seat 1 bets 20 and seat 5 says call. But seat 3 goes all in for 200 does seat 5 have to call the 200?

    Action has changed so it should not be binding.

    Ive seen it where a person goes all in out of Turn so if the players in the middle only check or call then the action has not changed and there for the all in must stand.

    Conditional betting should stay but not conditional calling. That doesn't make sense to me if their is a raise. Casino needs new floor people or less gray area.
  • persuadeopersuadeo Red Chipper Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Acting out of turn, as implied by Robert's Rules, must be reprimanded and stopped, and as you see, their options are taken away from them when it occurs. However, in this case, the floor's ruling is vindictive rather than precise - but I'm sure it got the point across all the more by being so.

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