River decision with top pair.

sp1ke36sp1ke36 Red Chipper Posts: 46 ✭✭
edited April 2015 in Live Poker Hands
Game is 1/2 at a casino. Buy-in is 300max/50min.
The villain is very bluff happy. He seems to want to bluff everyone at the table and show the bluff. But he has hit runner-runner to bail out his failed bluffs on a number of occasions.

I open :As:9s for $12 in middle position w/~$300 behind
btn: villain calls $12 (he has ~$300)
blinds fold

Flop: :Ac:6d:5h ($17)
mp: bet $25
btn: calls $25 quickly

Turn: Kd ($67)
mp: check <<<I think this may have been a mistake, but decided to pot control.
btn: bets $35
mp: calls $35

river: :4h($137)
mp: check
btn: bets $87 (he called out the amount and then counted & moved the chips in place.)
mp:????

also how would your decisions change if it went check/check on the turn, but same action on the river.

Comments

  • SplitSuitSplitSuit RCP Coach Posts: 4,069 -
    The ONLY reason you would check the turn here is to induce bluffs...so folding is out of the question imo. As played, call it down.
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  • ivandurstivandurst Red Chipper Posts: 124 ✭✭
    sp1ke36 wrote:
    mp: check <<<I think this may have been a mistake, but decided to pot control.

    I think this is good against a bad/overly aggro LAG - under-rep and let the man do what he likes to do best! You can't really pot control against a LAG OOP... you're just inducing. River improves 87 and A4, but doesn't affect the rest of his range, so stick to your read on turn and make the +EV call. Side note: you got out cheap - he could have bombed turn for $60 and river for $150 and really put you to the test. I would take a note on bet-sizing here if he showed up with value (unless, of course, he bet sizes similarly with bluffs).
  • Christian SotoChristian Soto RCP Coach Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭✭
    That Turn should pretty much never be a check IMO. It's a card that improves your range much more than his, and therefore should be a barrel in theory.

    When you C/C there your hand looks exactly like your hand. If Villain was a real OG gangster, he would Bomb Turn and Bomb river and put you to the test with your capped range.

    Your line reps Weak Ax. Capped at probably AJ on a rainy day, which is exactly what you have. You never want to rep the hand that you actually have. Especially when it's a marginal hand!

    *For the record, we need a bomb emoji on here for sure.
  • sp1ke36sp1ke36 Red Chipper Posts: 46 ✭✭
    I really felt like I should have bet the turn, now that I look at this hand over and over. Thanks for the help guys.
  • SplitSuitSplitSuit RCP Coach Posts: 4,069 -
    *For the record, we need a bomb emoji on here for sure.

    :bomb
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  • Ed MillerEd Miller RCP Coach Posts: 330
    It's okay sometimes to rep the hand you actually have, but two things should apply:

    1. You should be aware that's what you're doing.
    2. You should have some idea how your opponent will read the situation and respond.

    I might rep ace-rag in this situation if I were fairly sure my opponent would try to :bomb me off the hand. But the less sure I am of how things will proceed once I rep ace-rag, the less willing I am to rep the hand I actually have, because that puts me at an informational disadvantage for the rest of the hand.
  • Christian SotoChristian Soto RCP Coach Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭✭
    Yeah agreed- it's fine when you have a plan for it. When you rep the hand you actually have it forces Hero to call down more often.

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