Vegas Live Games

In The DarkIn The Dark Red Chipper Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
edited June 19 in Live Poker Hands
I called two rooms, the Venetian (currently showing zero games on Bravo) and the Orleans (6 games). Both related that they were spreading (no pun intended) 5 handed games.

Picture in your mind a 1-3 Orleans game with 4 OMCs and yourself likely paying full rake (I didn't ask about that). Which circle of Hell is that?

The Nugget and South Point also show up on Bravo. I'll call them and report but I imagine the Gaming Commission along with house lawyers are dictating the 5 handed 'safety measures'.

Here's my main contention: If nine or ten handed games are a threat to personal and public health then five handed games MUST be as well.

I got as close as the Orleans parking lot but then saw the poker room entrance was closed and couldn't bear the though of traversing the entire casino to observe the assumed sad scene. I will report this week. Expect some serious ugly.

Has anyone played live where they felt like risks were mitigated? I can't imagine it. I can imagine many ignoring the risks or those with antibodies being free from worry, but high risk seniors like myself won't feel secure.

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  • RedRed Red Chipper Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's my main contention: If nine or ten handed games are a threat to personal and public health then five handed games MUST be as well.

    Yes and no

    Yes, because the corona survives so can spread on any surfaces (except copper, on which he may only survive few hours). So chips, cards, table, drinks... anything you touch is a potential threat. A guy sick 3 tables away could potential be a threat with a dealer moving through table. For that, playing a 5-handed game doesn't change much.

    No because 5-handed games means somehow fewer hands touching things (so less potential hazardous contacts) and more personal space, allowing to respect the 2m social distancing.

    To me, wearing a mask* and disinfecting hands regularly at the table should be enough.
    (Also note that wearing gloves doesn't change anything if you don't change them very often, otherwise your gloves might turn into the disease transmitter)
    *The virus isn't airborne, but wearing a mask protect your face of your potential hazardous hands. In average we touch our face (intentionally or not) ~23 times per hour.
    I can imagine many ignoring the risks or those with antibodies being free from worry, but high risk seniors like myself won't feel secure.
    The high risk population aka ~60-65+ with already other health issues (esp. pulmonary, cardiovascular issues and/or diabetes) should really, really avoid any risky contact.

    If you belong to this population, I'd strongly advise you to avoid any poker room / casino. Too many potential hazards which may easily bring to an ... unwanted personal situation.
    In the case that you really want to play live poker, I'd advise you a home game with a limited number people, people you know and trust (respecting health advises, not lying about their situation), and who don't have any symptoms.
  • RussRuss Red Chipper Posts: 140 ✭✭
    And, if you wait a couple days or a week or so, all of the health care advice will change.
  • kipkoankipkoan Red Chipper Posts: 1 ✭✭
    I'm at the Venetian right now, and they are being very diligent in keeping things as clean as possible.
  • In The DarkIn The Dark Red Chipper Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    edited June 19
    Three Gila River props in AZ have closed again after C-19 "issues" with at least one fatality.

  • BFSkinnerBFSkinner Red Chipper Posts: 120 ✭✭
    I have been playing live for a few weeks in Vegas. Southpoint, Nugget, and Caesars. Games are great. OMC even open up a little and now raise queens.

    Rake is halved so manageable. Players don't adjust their starting ranges for short-handed play, so they tend to overfold.
  • BigDaddyBigDaddy Red Chipper Posts: 70 ✭✭
    I have been playing live for a few weeks in Vegas
    C'mon Dr., give it a rest. Chill. It'll be there later, I promise.
  • BFSkinnerBFSkinner Red Chipper Posts: 120 ✭✭
    BigDaddy wrote: »
    I have been playing live for a few weeks in Vegas
    C'mon Dr., give it a rest. Chill. It'll be there later, I promise.

    I backed off after the most recent surge. 4th of July weekend seemed too dangerous.

  • In The DarkIn The Dark Red Chipper Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    edited July 12
    I was at the Orleans this 2 AM and the action I could see from the rail looked OK. The main casino was much busier than I expected and made my skin crawl. I GTFO ASAP. The plexiglass dividers only harden my conviction that the game isn't safe.

    I predict that despite the need/greed for tax revenue the days of NV gambling are about done for this moment.
  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 334 ✭✭✭
    If there was ever a desire to get your skin crawling, 2am at the Orleans needs no assistance from a pandemic.
  • In The DarkIn The Dark Red Chipper Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    Paul_K wrote: »
    If there was ever a desire to get your skin crawling, 2am at the Orleans needs no assistance from a pandemic.

    Indeed. Just a drive-by at that hour will do it.

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