How far to take QQ as overpair vs 3-better aggression?

rickmfrickmf Red Chipper Posts: 107 ✭✭
6max villian is a 27/23 3bet10 I actually timed out here and ended up folding but i feel like it was right either way. credit for sets, a flsuh i dont block, and obv KK AA? Or call this shit down/ shove stacks?

iPoker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 118 BB (VPIP: 26.53, PFR: 22.96, 3Bet Preflop: 10.77, Hands: 204)
SB: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 20.70, PFR: 17.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.47, Hands: 1,089)
BB: 109.6 BB (VPIP: 27.70, PFR: 22.77, 3Bet Preflop: 9.48, Hands: 3,586)
Hero (UTG): 224.9 BB
MP: 124 BB (VPIP: 20.91, PFR: 12.69, 3Bet Preflop: 3.90, Hands: 1,199)
CO: 127.4 BB (VPIP: 27.21, PFR: 22.82, 3Bet Preflop: 10.29, Hands: 4,413)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:club: Q:heart:

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 6:spade: 3:spade: 7:diamond:
Hero checks, CO bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

Turn: (51.5 BB, 2 players) 8:club:
Hero checks, CO bets 26 BB, fold

CO wins 74.7 BB
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  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 2,130 -
    Given the large number of hands you have on V some of their postflop stats might help here.
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  • rickmfrickmf Red Chipper Posts: 107 ✭✭
    anything specific?
    in 3 bet pots post flop they..
    cbet 87%
    f2cb 43%
    r cbet 11%
    callcbet 46%

    after turn..
    cbet 57
    call 47
    raise 13
    fold 40
    fold to raise (1/1)

    This also comes from villian notes in pt..
    [P] 3Bet range {TT+,88,44-55,ATs,A6s,KQs,QTs,AKo,KQo} (22)
    but im not sure if that's a great relative sample out of 151 total 3-bets. Its only the ones we saw.
  • TheGameKatTheGameKat Posts: 2,130 -
    Maybe a preflop 4b makes the line easier.
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  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 315 ✭✭✭
    QQ has a huge equity advantage vs a 10% pre 3bet range. You're notes confirm that he's most likely doing this with an even wider, merged range of around 13%. We should feel very happy about clobbering him with a 4bet pre flop.
  • rickmfrickmf Red Chipper Posts: 107 ✭✭
    right on. hated being oop here. and i cant remember if this was before or after i just had queens rekt so i may have been tilty as well
  • rickmfrickmf Red Chipper Posts: 107 ✭✭
    Does QQ ever turn into a fold if there's a 5-bet or a shove pf? Or should we always feel comfortable getting it in with something who has stats like that?

    the board looked so good for QQ at first. Should i have donked this? Raised the flop bet?
  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 315 ✭✭✭
    rickmf wrote: »
    Does QQ ever turn into a fold if there's a 5-bet or a shove pf? Or should we always feel comfortable getting it in with something who has stats like that?

    the board looked so good for QQ at first. Should i have donked this? Raised the flop bet?

    Well, we have to assume the 5b shove is likely skewed towards his top. So vs JJ+/AK/AQs and a bluff (A5s) we have a flip. I suppose you could consider a fold if stacks were a bit deeper. Online 6-max though I'm probably never folding for 120bb.

    I would say c/r flop vs a player with this high cbet %. He seems way to aggro to worry too much that he'll check behind on this wet board.
  • Paul_KPaul_K DFWRed Chipper Posts: 315 ✭✭✭
    edited January 9
    BTW... Take my advice at your peril. I play live pretty much exclusively nowadays, and players like your villain are rare. They do tend to gather at RCP meetups, however.
  • rickmfrickmf Red Chipper Posts: 107 ✭✭
    appreciate it.

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